Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/I Killed the Prom Queen (2nd nomination)

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The result was keep I Killed the Prom Queen and Music for the Recently Deceased. The others can be renominated. (non-admin closure) Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:07, 28 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I Killed the Prom Queen[edit]

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A search for published (books) that mention the group "I Killed the Prom Queen" is very short, most of the mentions in print are actually wikimirrors. This group was subject to an previous AFD in 2004 Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/I Killed the Prom Queen that was inconclusive. The article remains unreferenced and continues to show no signs of meeting WP:N or WP:V the article claims the band is now broken up, so any future increase in notability is unlikely. There are several albums by the group on Wikipedia (i.e. Your Past Comes Back to Haunt You) which could be included in this AFD but proding them after this debate closes seems simpler Jeepday (talk) 13:36, 21 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as unsourced. There was a sourced version before, but the fans kept replacing it with an unsourced one. Even the sourced version didn't indicate enough encyclopedic notability. -- Jeandré, 2010-08-21t13:50z
- The chart ref is a start, but not yet "significant coverage in reliable sources". A good start would've been a verifiable ARIA ref. -- Jeandré, 2010-08-22t21:27z
  - Keep I Killed the Prom Queen and Music for the Recently Deceased articles per Duffbeerforme's ARIA ref, but delete the other album articles especially the 2 completely unsourced ones. -- Jeandré, 2010-08-23t13:47z

Delete band and albums; no sources beyond Wiki mirrors and a terse Allmusic bio. Added the albums in case someone forgets to tag them for A9 after band's article is deleted. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Otters want attention)} 15:32, 21 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep per duffbeer; not one but two charted albums. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Otters want attention)} 19:27, 22 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 16:01, 21 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 16:01, 21 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 17:14, 21 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete fails notability. Diego Grez ^{what's up?} 17:41, 21 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep per Duffbeerforme. Diego Grez ^{what's up?} 19:33, 22 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I was originally thinking of voting keep, due to them being associated with Metal Blade Records in the past, but maybe even that's not notable enough. There is certainly a referencing problem, and only one external link given. I figure that it should be deleted, because it is not an accurate representation of what wikipedia desires in an article. There is so much text in the article yet no references. I wouldn't want anybody modeling articles after this one. Backtable _{Speak to me}^{concerning my deeds.} 19:04, 21 August 2010 (UTC) [reply]
- ~~PS: Needless to say, all the album pages can also be deleted. Backtable _{Speak to me}^{concerning my deeds.} 19:07, 21 August 2010 (UTC)~~[reply]
- Weak keep. I have changed my opinion on the article. Due to the recent development of finding out about their charting in Australia, that does prove some notability. Also, the band page now has two sources, which is nice. However, it still has referencing as a very prominent problem in this article, and has good potential to become better. Backtable _{Speak to me}^{concerning my deeds.} 02:19, 23 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Music for the Recently Deceased debuted at #27 on the ARIA albums chart (The ARIA Report, Issue 857. Week commencing 7th August 2006). Was in the top 100 for 4 weeks. duffbeerforme (talk) 03:39, 22 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- The chart ref is a start, but not yet "significant coverage in reliable sources". A good start would've been a verifiable ARIA ref. -- Jeandré, 2010-08-22t21:27z
  - The ARIA Report, Issue 857 is already verifiable, even without this link (if that doesn't work for you go here). Other issues of note, re-entry of album in issue 952, Sleepless Nights .. charting in issue 979.

Some Coverage: GET OUT with Alison Buckland, 21 May 2008, Central Coast Express

SINGER BUTCHER QUITS KILLED THE PROM QUEEN, 9 February 2007, World Entertainment News Network

Hot moves at Prom by Danielle O'Donohue, 18 January 2007, The Advertiser

PROM QUEEN MAKING WAVES by Jeff Crawford, 18 October 2006, Weekly Times Messenger

Prom night by KANE YOUNG, 12 October 2006, Hobart Mercury

Oasis Youth Centre has some world class acts booked to appear at all ages gigs over the coming weeks, with heavy metal band I Killed The Prom Queen leading the charge. JAMES TYDD finds out what it takes to sustain such a high-energy tour, 22 September 2006, Central Coast Express

That'll do for now. duffbeerforme (talk) 10:01, 23 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep 2 charted albums is enough to pass wp:music. VirtualRevolution (talk) 08:32, 23 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Could possibly do with a bit more sourcing, but there's enough to pass muster. Peridon (talk) 11:21, 23 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Although the article definatly needs some editing, and reliable references, the band itself is notable, with thier last album making it within the top 30 on the Australian ARIA charts. Also, the possibility exists of a reform.--Tristwin (talk) 14:06, 27 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.