Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/House of Love (Mumbai)

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The result was no consensus. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 10:56, 3 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

House of Love (Mumbai)

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fails WP:GNG, promo The Banner talk 21:24, 20 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 22:25, 20 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 22:28, 20 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Obviously a worthy organization in the real world. However, in the wikiworld it is not worthy of an article as I seriously cannot find a single reliable source when searching the web. This is another instance of "Jesu-spam", which the article creator should go ahead and endorse for deletion as it fails to meet GNG.96.127.244.27 (talk) 00:26, 21 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Keep (in place of former Comment). I did find a more-than-passing mention for your consideration, from what seems to me an independent source here at MoneyLife, with attribution to N. Madhavan, that says in part: "In 1985, it gained national recognition. President Zail Singh presented Fr Placido Fonseca, director Snehasadan, the 1985 National Award for Child Welfare. Snehasadan now runs 16 homes for orphans and street children." This would be an improved reference for what is already in the article. If the inclusion of mention how money can be sent to assist in the effort vitiates the whole report, then you can skip this one.

And if the story of someone who spent 10 years at House of Love (Mumbai) - Sneha Sadan - has any place in the article, then this bit from a correspondent for Gulf New India might be used.Jzsj (talk) 18:44, 26 August 2018 (UTC)Jzsj (talk) 11:40, 21 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

- Are you kidding me? You think a fund raising article is a reliable source? The Banner talk 11:51, 21 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  - Please give me more time to finish my contributions. You'll find some additions to my remarks in the above. Jzsj (talk) 12:11, 21 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    - When you save an edit, people can reply on it... The Banner talk 12:27, 21 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    - Okay, so you have added a second fundraiser and a passing mention. The Banner talk 12:35, 21 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails WP:GOLDENRULE. We should be looking for independent significant coverage from secondary sources (which should obviously be reliable). In this case none. Accesscrawl (talk) 09:40, 24 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per WP:AUD but the topic does meet notability guidelines, although not on a grand level just scrapes through. There is coverage in major Indian newspapers .It is a 52 year old organisation.Note it is mentioned as Sneha Sadan and I have not gone through the coverage in the local Marathi and Hindi languages.

References

Of no fixed address: Mumbai’s street-dwellers are neither beggars nor destitute The Indian Express
Child Abuse Survivor Shares his Mumbai Journey on Facebook NDTV
A former Mumbai street child has beaten all odds to open the café of his dreams Scroll
Mangalore Premier League gets off to grand start with Sri Lankan touch The Times of India
Creating Wealth Through Strategic Hr And Entrepreneurship pg 191
From Mumbai street kid to author, cafe owner Gulf News
Once a street kid himself, this Andheri-based entrepreneur now wants to build a library cafe for poor children Daily News and Analysis
They showed how to turn odds into evens Daily News and Analysis
Art from the Heart Hindustan Times

Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 18:29, 26 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

- Not one is an in-depth description of Sneha Sadan. And three times the same success story. The Banner talk 19:06, 26 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
BOMBAY STREET CHILDREN SCAMPER TO FIND FUTURE New York Times
Urban Children in Distress: Global Predicaments and Innovative Strategies pg 193-196
Funny in Parts: The Diary of a Foreign Service Officer pg 250
Outlook mentions it Outlook
Child Exploitation and Abuse: A Global Phenomenon : the Report of the First Asian Conference on Child Exploitation & Abuse, Calcutta, India, 17-19, December 1990 pg 30-32
Enfants des rues de Bombay - Snehasadan, la maison de l'amitié Book on Snehasadan.Pharaoh of the Wizards
For Snehasadan girls, it's one happy homecoming Mumbai Mirror Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 04:01, 31 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kirbanzo (talk) 23:39, 26 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Wait-I think I have came across the subject in a few media-pieces.Will try to look for them, in the hope that my memory is not betraying me.....∯WBG^converse 11:59, 27 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete-Nothing resembling to significant coverage in any source.No hits in Hindi either.How are this news-piece or this or this or this paid-promotion-piece helpful to establish the notability of Sneha Sadan? A street child of Sneha Sadan made it somewhat-big but how does that make SS notable? This has some mentions of the organization that can be exploited.Sheer insanity.Even if I take that the fund-donator is wiki-notable, all organisations to whom they donate funds does not inherit automatic-notability. This news-piece is a coverage from the events-section of the local edition of HT Times, which has zero relevance as to encyclopedic notability.Sigh......∯WBG^converse 14:49, 29 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I see numerous good sources in GBooks when searching as a single word: "Snehasadan".ThatMontrealIP (talk) 05:47, 2 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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