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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was merge to List of Forgotten Realms characters. If someone wants to create List of Drow Houses in the Forgotten Realms setting, and can prove that it passes WP:LISTN, then material from this article can be merged into that one too. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 10:16, 28 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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More fancruft, similar House Do'Urden. All in-universe with no sign of WP:N. Qwertyus (talk) 01:38, 11 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:46, 11 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Games-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:46, 11 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge this and its sibling list articles into something like a list of Drow Houses in the Forgotten Realms setting. They're not individually notable, but the sum of the info can probably be presented at least as appropriately as a list of characters from a TV show. Jclemens (talk) 05:14, 11 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- where is the third party coverage about Drow Houses to sustain the suggested merge target? -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 03:15, 14 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep or merge per Jclemens, or into List of Forgotten Realms characters. One RS has been added, which is better than how we started off. BOZ (talk) 14:02, 11 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete: All of the sources are either primary or unreliable. Hence it does not satisfy WP:GNG. Relocating the material to another page would not resolve this issue. Praemonitus (talk) 00:02, 12 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Actually, it would, and we regularly do that with character lists from notable franchises, which TSR's sponsored fiction certainly seems to be. Jclemens (talk) 01:02, 12 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Then I look forward to seeing your efforts. However, merging into an as-of-yet non-existent article will not satisfy WP:GNG. Praemonitus (talk) 20:16, 12 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Actually, it would, and we regularly do that with character lists from notable franchises, which TSR's sponsored fiction certainly seems to be. Jclemens (talk) 01:02, 12 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as non-notable per the absence of significant coverage in secondary sources. Creating a "list of drow houses" would merely shift the problem away instead of solving it, since this hypothetical list, a subsection of intricate plot trivia, is unlikely to be any more notable than the current article. "Wikipedia does not aim to contain all data or expression found elsewhere on the Internet", per WP:NOT. Folken de Fanel (talk) 20:07, 13 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- delete no third party sources that provide significant content about the subject of the article. (there is a single source that provides a trivial mention about a single very very small portion of the purported subject.) -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 03:15, 14 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- delete fancruft. Im sure there is a forgotten realms wiki somewhere. We shouldn't be mirroring it. Gaijin42 (talk) 15:04, 14 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Redirect to list of Forgotten Realms characters as a possible search term. —Torchiest talkedits 18:44, 14 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Redirect per User:Torchiest, merging any usable content (since the Baenre entry in that list currently points to the article under discussion and is otherwise empty).Vulcan's Forge (talk) 01:58, 16 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge and redirect per Torchiest; information worth keeping as part of the character list, but not as an independent article. - The Bushranger One ping only 17:17, 18 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, JayJayWhat did I do? 16:11, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- merge Doesn't meet WP:N, but there is a clear and obvious merge target, so use it. I'm not clear why this was relisted as a pure delete isn't really an option given the list article in question... Hobit (talk) 07:19, 23 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- That, and the sister deletion of House Do'Urden was closed as a merge, so it makes sense to do the same here rather than delete. BOZ (talk) 11:56, 23 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge into list of Forgotten Realms characters. Could do with a lot of work, but some of the text is possibly worth salvaging. 1292simon (talk) 13:58, 25 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.