Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hoseynabad-e Alam

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 14:38, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hoseynabad-e Alam[edit]

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Does not meet WP:GNG and WP:PLACEOUTCOMES, another low effort article.

Linking to an .xls file doesn't make the article meet GNG Hongsy (talk) 14:32, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 15:31, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Iran-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 15:31, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Reference #2 is the official Census of Iran. If a town is listed on their spreadsheet for this region (#29), then it's officially recognized per WP:GEOLAND and therefore notable. @Hongsy, is Hoseynabad-e Alam listed? Checking references is part of WP:BEFORE.

Thanks,

--A. B. ^{(talk • contribs • global count)} 17:12, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@A. B. - Just a note that we had a massive, massive problem with the Iranian census having places listed as abadi that Carlossuarez46 created "village" articles out of. The problem is that abadi in the Iranian census are just places where the census was counted, including petrol stations, pumps, bridges, factories etc. and many of them aren't populated. Something like 15,000 of them have been deleted so far. See particularly these discussions:

Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Carlossuarez46

Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Archive332#Large_batch_deletion_probably_needed

User_talk:Carlossuarez46/Archive_13#Places_in_Iran

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Agro-Industry Complex

FOARP (talk) 09:24, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Woa so much popcorn 🍿 on that arbitration page. Looks like these pages were missed out in the large batch deletion. Hongsy (talk) 12:34, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Can we ask an admin to redo the large batch deletion? Hongsy (talk) 12:35, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@A. B. Hongsy (talk) 12:55, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@FOARP

or maybe we can combine the multiple noms into a single nom? is that possible! Hongsy (talk) 12:59, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

These weren't missed, instead people erred on the side of caution when the bulk deletion was done. So only the articles that could be identified with near-certainty as being related to non-villages were deleted, and more grey-zone articles like this one were left alone just in case they related to actual villages. FOARP (talk) 14:43, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - There is nothing at the location cited in the map, which points to an empty field between two villages, neither of which has this name. This is therefore a straight-forward failed verification. Simply being an abadi in the Iranian census does not deliver a pass of GEOLAND since abadi are explicitly excluded from it (see above for why). Similarly, simply being a listed in GNS does not give a GEOLAND pass as GNS since it's designation of places as "populated" is unreliable. That leaves us with absolutely nothing with which to verify that this supposed village actually exists. FOARP (talk) 09:35, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per above. FOARP, thanks for letting me straight about abadis and Hongsy, thanks for your work cleaning up this mess.

--A. B. ^{(talk • contribs • global count)} 17:23, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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