Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Horseheads High School

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was keep. Note that there is a general consensus that articles on high schools are to be kept. howcheng {chat} 19:47, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Horseheads High School

This tiny insignificant High School doesn't warrent it's own article. Before it was written in a non-NPOV. — Moe ε 05:10, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

• Keep and expand as with any high school article. I don't know about concepts of tiny in American schools, but I doubt that as many as 1% of schools in the UK have over 1,500 pupils. CalJW 06:43, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
• Merge with Horseheads (town), New York. Past precedent to keep high schools in some form, but this article is rather short. Sjakkalle (Check!) 08:05, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
• Keep as per other Schools articles. Jcuk 11:45, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
• Merge with Horseheads (town), New York per WP:SCH. --Malthusian (talk) 15:18, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
• Keep so it can grow. Bhoeble 16:40, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per School Inclusionist Cabal. Cyde Weys 2M-VOTE 16:58, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, as per Wikipedia:Schools/Arguments#Keep. Carioca 17:24, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
• Keep — valid high school with 1,500 students; I wouldn't call that a small school. — RJH 18:56, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
• Comment Accidently worded the above message wrong, I MEANT tiny, insignificant article about a High School. I would much rather merge it though. — Moe ε 20:57, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
• Speedy keep as per WP:SCH and for reasons illustrated at Wikipedia:Schools/Arguments#Keep. Silensor 21:56, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
• Keep if expanded to meet WP:SCH proposal otherwise Merge.Gateman1997 23:27, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
• Prompt Schoolwatch (part of WP:SCH) to expand this article; if no progress shown soon, merge into Horseheads (town), New York. I live in Spencer, thirty or forty miles away from Horseheads, and there's nothing even regionally special about its high school beyond the extent to which the School Inclusionist Cabal finds every high school special. (I reluctantly agree for high schools, but not primary/middle schools.) This sentence contains three articles and three external links. Can more be added to distinguish HHS from a thousand other high schools and their stubs? Barno 00:37, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Do you expect to influence people by name calling? If the entire extent of your thought process is to think up insults, don't be surprised if you have no influence over the outcome of this, or any article. --Rob 01:01, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
    • Now boys let's calm down :).Gateman1997 02:26, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
      • Rob, the only "namecalling" was the tongue-in-cheek use of a phrase used in an earlier vote in the same AfD. Editors who spend much time on AfD get used to a few people making such accusations and the rest of us joking about them. The other 88 of my 91 words were a request for what WP policy requires for inclusion of any topic, rather than "Keep, school" being sufficient for a nearly empty article. Sorry if that proportion struck you as "the entire extent of (my) thought process". Barno 02:36, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
    • "School Inclusionist Cabal" can of course be interpreted as a violation of WP:CIVIL. Tongue-in-cheek, sarcastic, and other facetious comments are often misinterpreted in this medium, and its easy to accidentally misconstrue words as personal attacks. However, Cyde Weys has thus far not been admonished for his usage of this term over quite a number of AfD nominations. I believe that discounting an entire argument because of a brief tongue-in-cheek comment, with much precedent - therefore obvious as to its intent, is unfair. Since Barno has apologized for the fact that the comment offended you, I think it's fair to give his comment the weight it deserves, whatever the vote. -Rebelguys2 04:35, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, per Cyde Weys. Current precedent is to keep high schools. -Rebelguys2 04:22, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
• Keep as this appears to meet the criteria established by WP:SCH, although it could use some expansion. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 04:23, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per WP:SCH. Some work on references may be needed though. Also, can somebody familiar with this tell, if this school is related to the one of the same name/place with a graduating class in 1888? [1] [2]. Perhaps one school was built, torn down, and entirely new largely unrelated one built later. Or maybe it was a a continuation of the same institution, but a different building (as is often the case with some schools, for which we discuss all buildings in one article). Since this is speculation on my part (aka unverified) I obviously didn't mention it in the article. As for merge suggestions, I suggest, that since the district has exactly one high school, and we merge to districts (if possible), any merger be done to *this* article. That is if any elem substubs are made, they be merged/redirected here, rather then merging/redirecting this elsewhere. --Rob 05:06, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Keep or Merge into school district or town if article is both below three sentances and lacks any sort of illustration, boxed info-template or picture when AFD is closed. This school, like all others, is an important public institution and should be written about somewhere, even if it cannot sustain an article on it's own. Presently people do create school articles containing neutral, verifiable information and it is impossible to delete them, even though many have a desire to do so. Rather than striving for an impossible consensus to delete any given school article, I feel it is always preferable and takes much less energy to merge the text of the article into an article about a suitable habitation or administrative unit: a city, county or state, or a school district of local education authority of other school system, while taking care not to delete the information contained in the article. If the article is merged, the current location should be replaced by a redirect, and the edit history maintained for future use. This is the baseline consensus that I feel was reached at WP:SCH. Hipocrite - «Talk» 16:55, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

• Delete, because I have the balls to suggest it. — FREAK OF NUR_xTURE (TALK) 15:56, Jan. 22, 2006
• Keep The subject of the article clearly exists Kurt Weber 00:43, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.