Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Honeysuckle, Kentucky
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The result was delete. Daniel (talk) 07:11, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
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I have absolutely no idea how we handle this sort of situation against WP:GEOLAND, so this is really a test nomination more than anything. I can see a case for this both to be kept and deleted, and this nomination is just out here to test to see what consensus for this sort of place is.
In this case, both the GNIS entry for the community and for the post office are sourced to Rennick's Kentucky place names field work. However, Rennick describes Honeysuckle as a post office in Charlie Marshall's store and states that it was only a post office, no accompanying community. Rennick does say that the Honeysuckle post office served a pretty broad area. I ran a further WP:BEFORE, and found a number of passing mentions of Honeysuckle, a few references to the C. G. Marshall store at Honeysuckle, and a number of references to people being "of" Honeysuckle. I also found official post office publications that say that postmaster Marshall was paid about $17 in 1894 but over $31 in 1897. However, all of these references are only passing mentions, and don't describe anything besides the store actually being at Honeysuckle. Topos go back to the 1920s and show a loose scatter of buildings throughout a wide area, but no cluster indicative of a community and the name Honeysuckle never appears on the maps. So the only source actually describing Honeysuckle I've been able to find describes it as a loosely-defined area around a post office in somebody's store. But the number of passing mentions indicates that there was evidently a Honeysuckle area. From all indications, this was not a community proper, but a loosely defined neighborhood served by a post office in somebody's store.
WP:GEOLAND is one of the vaguer SNGs. I can see a case for this to be kept, and I can see a case where this is ruled to fail WP:GEOLAND as well. My indication is to think that this doesn't qualify as a legally recognized populated place per GEOLAND #1, but rather more as a loosely defined neighborhood. GEOLAND does not give clear guidance on edge cases like this, so I think it's good to establish some sort of precedent on how we handle these. I don't think WP:GNG is met, as Rennick's single paragraph is the only thing that probably falls under significant coverage, as the other mentions are really passing. Hog Farm Talk 19:31, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Hog Farm Talk 19:31, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Kentucky-related deletion discussions. Hog Farm Talk 19:31, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete per Hog Farm. –Cupper52Discuss! 19:47, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete There are a lot of places like this in Kentucky and other states. A wide scattering of homes that picked up their mail at the same general store for a few years is not automatically equivalent to a notable community. Reywas92Talk 19:50, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete As per above reasoning by Hog Farm and Reywas92. Setreis (talk) 06:38, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete One sentence, and no proof of notability. Blubabluba9990 (talk) 23:54, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
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