Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Homo sapiens (Marvel Comics)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Killiondude (talk) 08:36, 27 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Homo sapiens (Marvel Comics)[edit]

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Entirely in-universe, no sources whatsoever. No evidence that any of this has any notability out-of-universe. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 05:20, 20 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. Lepricavark (talk) 05:56, 20 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions. Lepricavark (talk) 05:56, 20 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Comics and animation-related deletion discussions. Lepricavark (talk) 05:56, 20 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete because the entire article is sourced only to a Marvel comic, and I don't think independent reliable sources can be found to support the article. If I removed the unsourced information the article would be completely blank. And we have an article about real Humans already. Also Marvel Wikia has an article that looks very similar. Ilyina Olya Yakovna (talk) 09:59, 20 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep There are numerous sources out there which cover this stuff, including the following. Imperfect articles are welcome and AfD is still not cleanup.

Marvel Encyclopedia
Marvel Universe
The Marvel X-Men Guide Book
Marvel Comics: The Untold Story
Encyclopedia of Comic Books and Graphic Novels
The Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe
Marvel Comics in the 1960s
The Marvel Legacy of Jack Kirby
Marvel Comics In The 1980s
Comic Books: How the Industry Works

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Andrew Davidson (talk • contribs)

Yes I understand, but do you have any of those sources to confirm they are relevant, and if so do any of them have information on Homo Sapiens (as defined my Marvel) that could be used here? I know lots of reliable sources cover the 'Marvel Universe' but as far as I know they are mostly focused on the characters and specific commentary on the best story arcs. I know this article accurately represents what is in the comics, but can that be verified as required by Wikipedia policy? If so I will change my recommendation. Ilyina Olya Yakovna (talk) 14:07, 20 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

These sources are all relevant. For example, they say things like "The Atlanteans are a genetic offshoot of mainstream Homo sapiens called Homo mermanus, who ..."; "it was revealed that the Inhumans were descended from the apelike species that would evolve into Homo sapiens..."; "the depiction of anti-mutant hysteria among homo-sapiens in the Marvel Universe was reaching..."; "her powers reorder the universe into a world where homo-superiors reign over homo-sapiens". As mutants and rival strains of humanity are a significant theme in Marvel titles like X-Men and Inhumans, you'd expect such compendious works to cover this topic and so they do. Andrew D. (talk) 10:28, 21 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I am not convinced, unless there is an actual section focused on this subject in one of these works, I can't see how it has wider relevance. Also the more detailed Marvel Wikia already has this article so it's not like it's being lost. Ilyina Olya Yakovna (talk) 12:52, 21 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete the article is fancruft in-universe unreferenced essay, it adds no encyclopedic value to Wikipedia, and adding a list of sources of general publications about Marvel Comics has absolutely no relevance to the precise subject matter. The Rambling Man (talk) 22:36, 20 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per TRM.No out of universe notability.Winged Blades^Godric 12:44, 21 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Most of this information is already at Marvel Universe, which has more sources (all still primary) for the information. Argento Surfer (talk) 14:05, 22 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Most sources will be primary and seem to be describing distinct units. This seems to be case where the individual elements may be notable, but don't seem to be as a collective. --Killer Moff (talk) 14:56, 22 January 2018 (UTC)--Killer Moff (talk) 14:56, 22 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.