Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hittmanic Verses

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The result was Delete --- Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 20:25, 17 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hittmanic Verses[edit]

I have been unable to establish notability for this album. Google turned up a good number of hits, but only one reliable source. That source, allmusic, lists the album name, artist, release date and label, but nothing else.

The album does not turn up at all on metacritic, rollingstone, popmatters, artistdirect, blender, ew, nme, pitchforkmedia, altpress, slantmagazine, sputnikmusic, buy.com, robertchristgau, scaroffi, canoe.ca or iq451.

PROD was declined. Mdsummermsw (talk) 16:56, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. —Pixelface (talk) 17:09, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete both for failing WP:MUSIC. I added the album's artist, as he doesn't seem to meet any criterion of WP:MUSIC. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 17:22, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete both per nom, fails the everything test. RFerreira (talk) 18:10, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep both. Or maybe remove the album, but not the rapper's page. He has an ALL MUSIC GUIDE page with content like biography which could have been cited as source. He has appeared in 2001, an multi-platinum album that have topped the Hot R&B chart. I will provide more to keep it. --Flesh-n-Bone 19:06, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you Flesh-n-Bone. I will conditionally withdraw my motion to delete once a citation is given for the platinum album. Thank you, RFerreira (talk) 20:55, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - Here is a source and "2001" sold 6x platinum. --Flesh-n-Bone 15:28, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep the rapper's article as notability has been established, Merge the album's content (what little there is) into the rapper's article. --Closedmouth (talk) 07:09, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Flesh-n-Bone, Closedmouth. tomasz. 10:05, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Upon closer inspection I am still failing to find any non-trivial third party references about this person. So he made an "appearance" on a 2001 album which is actually credited to Dr. Dre, not this guy. [1] Is that all we have to go on? It isn't enough to sustain a biographical article on Wikipedia, that's for damn sure. RFerreira (talk) 18:35, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete both, unless something can be provided to demonstrate that Hittman is anything more notable than a back-up singer on the Dr. Dre album. I note that in the AMG credits, he's listed as Hitman and not mentioned in the album overview. I've read the following reviews of 2001, and found no reference to him at all: sputnikmusic, pop matters, NME & EW. WP:MUSIC says a musician is notable if "Has had a record certified gold or higher in at least one country." The certifying record is not his, and I have so far not been able to locate any evidence that he is regarded as any more significant in its production than a session musician. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 13:49, 17 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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