Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/History Matters

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The result was merge to Appalachian State University#Publications. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 17:11, 12 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

History Matters[edit]

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Non-notable journal. Not indexed in any selective databases, no independent sources (apart from a library catalog and a copy of text from the journal's own website on the UNC Dept. of History website). Does not meet WP:NJournals or WP:GNG. Randykitty (talk) 18:37, 5 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, journal is one of the most popular undergraduate history journals in the United States, and is frequently mentioned in lists of notable undergraduate journals alongside Georgetown, Tufts, Yale, and Harvard University's respective undergraduate history journals. I used the library catalogue source to show that the journal is indexed in the ESBCOhost American History catalogue, I would've gone straight to ESBCOhosts journal index but there is a paywall. At the very least, the journal is notable for being one of the few and first journals focusing on the work of undergrads, in fact, UNC Chapel Hill consulted with the editorial board of History Matters, as well as other universities with undergrad journals when they were creating their own undergraduate journal of history. So at the very least, the journal is considered notable enough to be an authority on publish undergraduate works. As for independent sources, there are numerous university websites that mention the journal as a potential publishing source for undergraduate students. Jp16103 19:03, 5 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, its just rubbish, delete it please. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.229.62.200 (talk) 20:35, 5 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Care to elaborate? Jp16103 21:30, 5 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Education-related deletion discussions. XOR'easter (talk) 21:11, 5 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academic journals-related deletion discussions. XOR'easter (talk) 21:11, 5 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Appalachian_State_University#Publications. The remark from the IP user above seems just opinion, and doesn't cite policy, so can be ignored, and the earlier comment does come from the article creator. I must admit to wanting to retain this article (my personal bias), but I can find few grounds to do so. Summary text by the journal has been repeated on other university websites and has then been cited here. These don't count, but at least shows its worthy of being included in another organisations useful links. It would be helpful if the article creator could find evidence that helps meets WP:JOURNALCRIT - although the link they've provided above shows its opinion and advice has indeed been sought by others, but these don't quite do enough to prove notability or that it influential in its field. As it's unlikely ever to be expanded much, a redirect seems appropriate with perhaps a brief merge/expansion of the entry in the Appalachian State University article, at least until such evidence is forthcoming. I think justifies inclusion as a link in List of history journals. Regards from the UK, Nick Moyes (talk) 23:59, 5 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Merge and redirect into Appalachian State University#Publications. The appearance of this journal on various university websites as a venue for undergraduates to publish indicates that the journal is respectable, but there just doesn't seem to be enough information out there to write an article much more substantial than we already have here. Basically, we have grounds to include this as part of a larger whole, but it doesn't quite stand as a page on its own. The story might be different if the writings by people who used History Matters as an example (e.g., [1]) had more in-depth discussion of it. XOR'easter (talk) 00:25, 6 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or merge to Appalachian State University. This fails WP:NJOURNALS. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 18:29, 6 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Merge After reviewing everyone's comments, I've come to agree with all of you that the article should just be merged with the ASU page. Jp16103 00:28, 9 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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