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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Fenix down (talk) 13:06, 5 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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No evidence of passing NFOOTY. Highly questionable GNG status - majority of references have nothing to do with the subject. Appears to be heavily edited by a closely related person or subject himself BlameRuiner (talk) 14:28, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 14:48, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 14:48, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 14:48, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - Unsure what's to be questioned? NFOOTY and GNG passed. Article is in a bit of a mess, but Menezes passes GNG: [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7]. A number of those refer to Menezes as a former Indian international - which is enough for NFOOTY. Happy to be corrected if I'm missing something. R96Skinner (talk) 18:32, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep since he was a manager of a team in the I-League, which is one of the fully-professional leagues of the NFOOTY list. William2001(talk) 19:00, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment' - RSSSF indicates that Henry Menezes played for the India national football team in the 1986, 1987, 1988 and 1989 editions of the Nehru Cup {[8], [9], [10], and [11]}, but these were unofficial matches against youth, Olympic and national league sides. I'm not sure he ever played an official match for India. Jogurney (talk) 22:39, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep passes WP:GNG per some good work by R96Skinner.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 23:27, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep – I actually agree with the nom that GNG status is "highly questionable". He is often in the media, but it's always talking about something else (like the state of football in India), rather than focusing on Menezes, the person. So I don't see WP:SIGCOV of Menezes in online searching, but this is a situation that I think the SNG is made for. He was goalkeeper for the national team for years–not sure how many appearances but he is certainly known as a national team goalkeeper, as that's mentioned often when he is quoted in the media about something. He also managed (and founded?) at least one team that played in an WP:FPL-listed league. He was awarded the Shiv Chhatrapati Award in 1986, which, yes, is a regional award, not a national one, but the region, Maharashtra, has over 100 million people, twice as many as England, so still kind of a big deal award. I think all signs point to the likelihood that there are offline, pre-internet-ubiquity sources (e.g., Indian media coverage from the '70s–90s) where, if we looked, we would find SIGCOV. And I think the SNG WP:NATHLETE overall supports that. So, keep per NATHLETE. Levivich 01:21, 30 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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