Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Henry Martyn (ballad)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Merge. I'll just do a redirect to Henry Martin (song), though. Tikiwont (talk) 09:37, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Henry Martyn (ballad)[edit]

This article duplicated an existing article - Henry Martin (song) - without adding any new information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ogg (talk • contribs)

Weak delete. Henry Martin (song) already exists, and is more thorough. The "Martin" spelling also gets more ghits, both in general and on the song (the other gets a lot on Henry Martyn, who is someone unrelated, rather than on the song). However, Martyn seems to be an alternate spelling (see this version), so if this article is deleted someone ought to put a "not to be confused with" on Henry Martyn. This article had one or two new facts that I checked out and added into Henry Martin, so that they'll appear in whichever version is kept. Anturiaethwr (talk) 19:52, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete and add a hatnote to Henry Martyn per Anturiaethwr. Since "Martyn" is what appears in Child, I think it would be a good idea to also acknowledge the alternative spelling in the first sentence of Henry Martin (song): "Henry Martin" (or "Henry Martyn") is a traditional Scottish folk song … Deor (talk) 20:42, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment If Child uses the title Henry Martyn, isn't that enough to move the existing article there, with a redirect from Henry Martin? -- BPMullins | Talk 04:21, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The most familiar modern versions, referred to in the article nominated here (Joan Baez (album), Black-edged Visiting Card), are titled "Henry Martin"; and Child includes a number of versions that feature names completely different from both "Henry Martyn" and "Henry Martin". Apart from its being a better article, I think Henry Martin (song) is the better candidate for the article's title, as long as it's pointed to by a hatnote at Henry Martyn and a link at the Henry Martin disambiguation page. Deor (talk) 05:08, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I'll back down and endorse the merge at Henry Martin. As you imply it's much of a muchness anyway. -- BPMullins | Talk 03:45, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, the only reason I didn't say "merge" is that there doesn't seem much there to merge. And a redirect seems unnecessary, since "Henry Martyn (ballad)" seems a more unlikely search term than plain "Henry Martyn," which is taken care of by the hatnote at Henry Martyn. Deor (talk) 03:52, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I have added a hatnote to mention "Henry Martyn" within the "Henry Martin" article. Ogg (talk) 05:34, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp (talk) 13:51, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Merge. Why is this even at AfD? If it's the same song, merge and redirect.--Fabrictramp (talk) 13:52, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per Fabrictramp. Stifle (talk) 20:44, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per Fabrictramp & Stifle. Laetoli (talk) 00:51, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.