Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Henry Ayres

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The result was redirect‎ to List of English cricketers (1826–1840)#A. ✗plicit 23:27, 3 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Henry Ayres

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Seemingly NN cricket player whose only claim of importance as allegedly having played only one "First-class cricket" match in 1829. Even this claim of importance seems improbable, since the term didn't come into use as defined today until May 1894. Toddst1 (talk) 15:42, 27 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect. These kind of nominations are very tedious for all concerned. If a thorough WP:BEFORE has been conducted and no in-depth sources can be found, then WP:BOLD should be the way to go and in this case, redirected to List of English cricketers (1826–1840). PRODing or AfDing the article isn't really a constructive use of everyone's time, including the nominators. StickyWicket (talk) 16:07, 27 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Cricket, and England. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 16:17, 27 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. First-class cricket was officially adopted as the term to describe major cricket in May 1894 by the MCC, though limited to matches in the United Kingdom. In 1947, the term was further defined by the ICC to encompass matches outside the United Kingdom, with individual cricket boards of the Test playing nations having the power to grant first-class status to matches (which remains the case to this day amongst the now 12 Full Members of the ICC). It is worth noting that the 1947 definition does not provide retrospective first-class status to pre-1894 matches, however, more recently the ICC allowed the Association of Cricket Statisticians and Historians to retrospectively apply first-class status to matches before 1894. Therefore, the first ever first-class match is retrospectively dated as Hampshire v England in 1772. So this player and the team he played for are first-class. So that part of the nomination is incorrect. StickyWicket (talk) 16:25, 27 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect per Spiderone's decision. CastJared (talk) 17:16, 27 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to List of English cricketers (1826–1840)#A Unless anything else can be dug up on the subject that we don't already have (at least we have a YoB to go on from the christening) then I'm at redirect for now. Obviously a suitable redirect exists here per WP:ATD. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 10:23, 28 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to List of English cricketers (1826–1840)#A would be the best option here. There might well be some sourcing out there in Sussex books, but I certainly don't have access to them. The list has already had details and sources added so there's nothing really to merge to it iirc. Blue Square Thing (talk) 11:19, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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