Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Heleri Saar

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. (non-admin closure) –Davey2010^Talk 00:07, 23 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Heleri Saar

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Effectively unsourced BLP as the given source does not even mention her. The Banner talk 14:20, 15 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy keep Meets WP:NFOOTY as played for the national team. There are external links with information about her. Sander.v.Ginkel ^(Talk) 14:26, 15 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- External links are no sources. And the use of a false source is not good. The Banner talk 14:41, 15 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  - @The Banner: I don't understand what you mean. The reference used of esbl.ee is a reliable source with many Estonian biographies. Sander.v.Ginkel ^(Talk)
    - Which you added indiscriminately to all articles about Estonian football players you created, no matter if they had an entry in it or not. The way you used it made it a false source. You have to check that the sources you add are actually correct, have relevant information about the subject of the article. Instead, you simply added it to all articles. While you are lucky that for this one (Saar) there is an entry, many others didn't. (I listed some on your talk page already, so you should have been aware before your above reply) And linking to a website homepage (like you did) instead of to the individual page with the information is really not helpful in any case. Fram (talk) 15:10, 15 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
      - The reference was not falce, but the part /biograafia/Heleri_Sar was by accident not copied from the template. It happened indeed with some more articles, and to more you listed on my talk page. I just fixed them all. Sander.v.Ginkel ^(Talk) 15:53, 15 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
        Nonsense. In many of those teh ESBL did not contain any info on the person. You didn't "forget" to copy a part, you never checked to see whether they were included or not. As happened with other articles (non-Estonian) as well, as discussed at your talk page. You just copy-paste creaye articles through a template without chexcking the sources. Fram (talk) 15:57, 15 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
        As I wrote to you earlier, I expected that those persons would be on this website. There was not broken link after creation (and I thought the specific link was made), so no need to change reference. Sander.v.Ginkel ^(Talk) 16:04, 15 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
        So you create BLPs where you add one source which you haven't even read, but still use to reference the article? That's the same as creating an unsourced BLP. Just stop it. Either read the source before you create the article and make sure that it supports the article, or don't create articles at all. Fram (talk) 16:54, 15 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Having played for Estonia, she meet WP:NSPORT. Sir Sputnik (talk) 15:24, 16 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@The Banner: To save editors' time, you should Wikipedia:WDAFD. Sander.v.Ginkel ^(Talk) 15:45, 16 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

And by that approve your sloppy work? No sir. The Banner talk 16:04, 16 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@The Banner: That is your opinion. It's a well sourced stub of a notable footballer meeting WP:NFOOTY. But if you say so, let's see what others think. Sander.v.Ginkel ^(Talk) 16:32, 16 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy keep Clearly meets the notability guidelines. Number 5 7 16:30, 16 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Represented her national side multiple times. Probably a good idea if the nom read WP:BEFORE. Lugnuts ^{Precious bodily fluids} 19:12, 17 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - check the UEFA profile to start. Hmlarson (talk) 05:03, 18 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.