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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. –Juliancolton | Talk 13:46, 4 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Heighington CE Primary School[edit]

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Contested PROD. Non-notable secondary school. I propose deletion or a redirect. Having an outstanding OFSTED inspection doesn't make a small school notable. Computerjoe's talk 19:52, 20 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • This AfD nomination was incomplete (missing step 3). It is listed now. DumbBOT (talk) 12:03, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, I think a script played up. Computerjoe's talk 16:38, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:09, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - There is widespread consensus that primary schools are not notable. Eusebeus (talk) 12:19, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep While I agree that the vast majority of primary schools are not notable, the multiple sources supporting the school's top Ofsted ranking established notability for this particular school. Alansohn (talk) 18:25, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    Many schools receive this rating. Computerjoe's talk 19:33, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep The top Ofsted ranking should be enough, the fact that many (not nearly most) get it is irrelevant. I also cannot see why American high schools are automatically notable but other schools are not. Is this some sort of ageism? That'a a serious question. Dougweller (talk) 21:29, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    High schools are bigger. Computerjoe's talk 22:12, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    Not always, but I agree usually. Dougweller (talk) 07:39, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep The Ofsted Grade 1 is a notable distinction for an elementary school. --Jmundo 15:08, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Many schools are grade 1; it is not really a claim to notability. Computerjoe's talk 15:28, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It is the highest award a primary school can attain in the UK, right? tedder (talk) 15:39, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It isn't an award. OFSTED must inspect all state schools in England. They then issue a report, grading the school between 1 and 4. Computerjoe's talk 16:03, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It is still notable. I don't understand the logic where a failing secondary school of 800 can be more notable than a primary school the same size with a Grade 1 report. Dougweller (talk) 17:14, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
A primary school of that size would be notable, quite amazing! This school has 260 pupils. Failing secondaries are a major political issue and the press coverage they get often extends far beyond local press by the way. There's probably thousands of grade 1 primaries. Computerjoe's talk 19:00, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
As far as "primary versus secondary" schools are concerned, secondary schools are generally kept per the common deletion outcomes. You may also be interested in notability guidelines for schools (failed consensus, but is helpful), and the essay at WP:HS. tedder (talk) 19:19, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, but what I don't understand is why this stuff is not actually in the guidlines -- and CDO just seems self-perpetuating -- we did this in 2006 so we should be doing it now. It seems to be treated as though it's an unofficial guideline, and that just seems wrong to me.Dougweller (talk) 20:01, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge Most Primary Schools (even the best ones) are generally NN. The best solution is usually to merge the substatinive content of the article to that on the place where the school is. This has the effect of preserving the best of the content. I think the rationale of the policy of treating all secondary schools are notable (even if currently failing), is that they may be the alma mater of a notable alumnus, whereas a person's primary education is rarely a notable feature of their later life. Peterkingiron (talk) 22:17, 31 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep The school is evidently notable. Colonel Warden (talk) 23:19, 31 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It isn't evident at all. Computerjoe's talk 17:57, 1 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • I had no difficulty adding some more material and another citation just now. Q.E.D. Colonel Warden (talk) 06:32, 4 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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