Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hector J. Liendo

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete I am amazed that nobody used the term WP:Coatrack. But in the end the majority of the editors here said that the subject of the article has no sources that sufficiently establish his notability, just tangentially mentioning him in the normal way that persons with his local position are mentioned locally, and a DUI charge, which does not consitute notability. Precedent has shown that people who have local structures named after them are not necessarily considered notable in the wikipedia sense, nor are people who are charged with misdemeanor legal infractions. JERRY ^talk _contribs 00:23, 17 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hector J. Liendo

Not notable, subject does not meet their respective notability criteria. Just being an elected local official, or an unelected candidate for political office, does not guarantee notability, although such a person may be notable for other reasons besides their political careers alone. Please Read Basic Criteria on the Wikipedia:Notability (people) page. Cheezwzl (talk) 23:04, 9 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, He is a 16-year JP arrested for drunk driving. Is that common?Billy Hathorn (talk) 23:06, 9 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

THE ARTICLE HAS BEEN REWRITTEN SINCE THE EARLY DELETION RECOMMENDATIONS WERE PRESENTED. The JP now has a bridge named after him.Billy Hathorn (talk) 06:46, 16 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Then write a letter to the editor of Laredo Morning Times and don't vote for him. You still haven't read notability guidelines. Some of your articles about Laredo celebrities and politicians are larger than historical figures, and you teach at a University?? Where did you get your degree, at a Degree/Diploma Mill?? Read your talk page (Billy Hathorn talk page) Apparently this is a problem. Cheezwzl (talk) 23:13, 9 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, well referenced facts and seems notable. Also, very uncivil comment above, Cheezwzl. _{WEBURIEDOURSECRETSINTHEGARDEN} ^{round of applause} 23:21, 9 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment:It was meant to sting.....but...Referenced, yes, but only from Laredo Morning Times. Where are the other references as suggested in the Notability criteria, and look at the flood of other stuff he puts up there. I love the fact that he makes pages, I wish I could write all day too, but his entries are usually about about un-notable individuals, or he changes quotes to personal opinions.Cheezwzl (talk) 23:27, 9 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"he changes quotes to personal opinions"

Where and when? NOT TRUE. Is there any case other than Judge Roy Bean where a JP would be "notable"?Billy Hathorn (talk) 23:33, 9 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

yes, John Fielding. There's more to the world than small-town America. DGG (talk) 20:31, 10 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. The Laredo Morning Times is a reliable source, and the fact that local officials are not automatically notable does not exclude the possibility that notability can be established for some of them. --Eastmain (talk) 04:08, 10 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. He's just a justice of the peace, not even close to satisfying WP:BIO. So he got charged with DUI, him and hundreds of thousands of other people. If you're going to try to use that as a reason, then WP:BLP1E trumps that without even breaking into a sweat. Clarityfiend (talk) 04:47, 10 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

New information added. Please recheck.Billy Hathorn (talk) 15:32, 10 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. -- the wub "?!" 18:09, 10 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete The article tells us he was one of " three elected officials in Webb County charged with driving while intoxicated between 2006 and 2007." This is not notability, for him or the others. The rest of the article seems, in fact, to be about another local JP also arrested for DWI, and general information about the extent of the jurisdiction of JPs in Texas, which seems to be mainly truancy cases.
delete I mean, c'mon. He's a minor political offical (about as local as they can get) who got a DUI charge? Serious WP:NOTNEWS among other concerns. JoshuaZ (talk) 01:13, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete- miserably fails WP:BIO. Rigby27 (talk) 01:19, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I don't know if I'd agree with that statement. We do have multiple independent reliable sources that discuss him. JoshuaZ (talk) 02:11, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  - The only source that discusses him biographically is the Webb County site and briefly in the Laredo Morning Times. All other sources only are election articles or DWI articles. The media coverage received by him would be similar to a lot of local representatives in other areas, and they do not satisfy WP:BIO. Why should a DUI make him notable? Rigby27 (talk) 17:05, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per Clarityfiend, JoshuaZ Bellhalla (talk) 05:04, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - he is essentially a news story. No interest outside of local coverage. -- Whpq (talk) 15:42, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

New information added on Feb. 13.Billy Hathorn (talk) 04:30, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Kudos to Billy Hathorn for doing a great job of referencing and expanding the article. I don't see how a county justice of the peace is inherently notable, even with having problems with drunk driving. Royalbroil 17:14, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - certainly gets coverage, per guidelines, which explicitly allow local politicians that get news coverage. --Leifern (talk) 21:21, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. He is so prominent that even with a drunk driving conviction, he gets a bridge named after him. That is NOTABILITY in itself. Some JP's in TX develop little kingdoms and become entrenched for years.Billy Hathorn (talk) 02:12, 16 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict; added after closing was factored)

Keep but trim; he seems notable enough, but there's no real need to go into the qualifications for being a JP in Texas in the article. The repeated focus on his drink driving is also a little unsettling, and should be re-assessed. Lankiveil ^{(speak to me)} 00:21, 17 February 2008 (UTC).[reply]

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