Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hartnett House

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Consensus is to keep the article so that it can be moved to Bella Terra Publishing. Please note that Move is not an AfD outcome and there is no onus on the closer to carry out that move. I have left a note on the article talk page detailing the consensus here. Philg88 ^♦talk 07:33, 12 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hartnett House[edit]

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Does not appear to meet WP:ORG or WP:GNG - I couldn't even find that the company have a website. A Google search for 'Harnett House' turned up mainly hits about a children's centre. It has a mention in a NYTimes article and I've added info from Worldcat. Has been tagged for notability for over six years. Boleyn (talk) 10:02, 24 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

~~Speedy keep~~ Deletion spree. Nomination seeks to bind AfD volunteers into working on articles of the nominator's choice. Unscintillating (talk) 20:14, 24 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

[off-topic comments refactored to talk page, WT:Articles for deletion/Hartnett House Unscintillating (talk) 00:45, 31 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:45, 26 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:46, 26 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete (but see below) Not notable. The only reference provided in the article barely mentions the subject in passing. Google searches mainly found a children's home in Australia by the same name.--MelanieN (talk) 00:45, 1 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete fails WP:NGO & WP:GNG. Jim Carter (from public cyber) 08:57, 1 September 2014 (UTC) (See below)[reply]

How about creating a list of map publishers and redirecting this to it? There are a few sources in GBooks, such as [1] [2] [3]. Some of these look like reviews. James500 (talk) 09:32, 1 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, –Davey2010 • (talk) 15:08, 1 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Fails WP:ORG ,WP:GNG and cannot find reliable sources.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 16:57, 1 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No reliable sources whatsoever? What is wrong with "Bibliographic Guide to Maps and Atlases" (G K Hall, 1993), which I cited above? Or the other two that I cited? James500 (talk) 07:28, 3 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Not notable. Kierzek (talk) 01:52, 2 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Nominator removed the official webpage from the article, diff, just before nomination, and then reports in the nomination, "I couldn't even find that the company have [sic] a website." WP:DEADLINK states (emphasis in original), "Except for URLs in the External links section that have not been used to support any article content, do not delete a URL solely because the URL does not work any longer." The removed website is available at http://web.archive.org/web/20011001185407/http://hartnetthouse.com/. An AboutUs page exists at http://web.archive.org/web/20010803123026/http://www.hartnetthouse.com/aboutus.htm. Unscintillating (talk) 10:11, 2 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Comment WP:BEFORE D1 finds:

http://books.google.com/books?id=ZYsekO14FGQC&pg=PA668&dq=%22Hartnett+House%22+publisher+OR+map&hl=en&sa=X&ei=XYUFVPDND5PBggTiwIEQ&ved=0CD4Q6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=%22Hartnett%20House%22%20publisher%20OR%20map&f=false

This source leads to another search term: Robert Hartnett

There are ghits at Google Scholar.

Unscintillating (talk) 10:11, 2 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment A search on Bella Terra Publishing yields:

http://www.ctpost.com/news/article/Lighthouses-vintage-trains-subjects-for-Bella-4998966.php

This is a full-length article on the successor company.

Unscintillating (talk) 10:11, 2 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Move to Bella Terra Publishing Publishers have a low threshold to inclusion, partly because Wikipedians need these articles as a resource, and partly because the publications are self-evidential. Unscintillating (talk) 10:11, 2 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Move to Bella Terra Publishing and rework accordingly. There seems to be a sufficient degree of coverage. James500 (talk) 07:16, 3 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Move to Bella Terra Publishing as per Unscintillating. Jim Carter (from public cyber) 07:40, 4 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I would agree with a move if, and only if, somebody promises to make the necessary changes in the article - adding at least the one reference cited here, and doing the necessary rewrite of the article. If the article is moved but nobody actually does the rewrite, then we are left with a worse situation than we have now - we would have a basically unsourced article which also has the wrong title. --MelanieN (talk) 15:43, 4 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I refer you to the answer that I gave at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Santa Clara County Park Ranger. Ultimately, if no one else does it, the task will fall upon the closing admin. It wouldn't exactly be a major undertaking. James500 (talk) 05:43, 5 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, and move. Technically the close should be for "Keep" i believe. From discussion above, it also seems it could/should be moved to current title of the successor firm. --do ncr am 01:31, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.