Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hamza Abo$$ (Artist)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Speedy deleted by Firefly. (A7: Article about a singer, which does not credibly indicate the importance or significance of the subject) (non-admin closure) WikiVirusC^(talk) 13:47, 4 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hamza Abo$$ (Artist)

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Hamza Abo$$ (Artist)

This biography of a living person does not establish musical notability or general notability. Footnotes are required in a biography of a living person. This article has no footnotes, only 11 endnotes. After being Proposed for Deletion, the deletion proposal was removed by the author, which is permitted. The endnotes appear to be all press releases, many of them labeled as press releases, others recognizable by the exuberant tone that is not that of professional critics.

Reference Number	Reference	Comments	Independent	Significant	Secondary
1	bignewsnetwork.com	A newswire press release	No	Yes	No
2	benzinga.com/pressreleases	Reads like a paid puff piece	No	Yes	No
3	usnewswire.org	A Press Release	No	Yes	No
4	southeast.newschannelnebraska.com	Reads like another press release	No	Yes	No
5	news.yahoo.com	Another gushing press release	No	Yes	No
6	news.yahoo.com	Yet another gushing press release	No	Yes	No
7	news.yahoo.com	Still another gushing press release	No	Yes	No
8	apnews.com	A press release, labeled as such	No	Yes	No
9	news.yahoo.com	Reads like a press release	No	Yes	No
10	usnewswire.org	Another press release, labeled as such	No	Yes	No
11	apnews.com	Another press release, labeled as such	No	Yes	No

There isn't any significant secondary coverage, either in-line, whether it is supposed to be, or at the bottom. Robert McClenon (talk) 07:43, 3 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians, Music, and Washington. Robert McClenon (talk) 07:43, 3 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2022 June 3. —^{cyberbot I}_{Talk to my owner:Online} 08:00, 3 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This biography of a living person does establish musical notability or general notability. Two out of the ten endnotes are are published via the Associated Press. This is considered reliable regardless of if it was apart of a mass syndication or not. The Associated Press is a news agency. There is consensus that the Associated Press is generally reliable. Syndicated reports from the Associated Press that are published in other sources are also considered generally reliable. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources for more info. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drackosiru (talk • contribs) 11:58, 3 June 2022 (UTC) Sockpuppet comment struck. Robert McClenon (talk) 19:56, 3 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The rule on whether Associated Press bestows notability on the subject refers to original articles written by their journalists, and not to pre-written press releases that they merely distribute, which is the case for this rapper. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 12:33, 3 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Good luck to dude as he gets started, but Wikipedia is not a promotional service. The nominator is correct on how all of the rapper's media coverage is reprinted press releases from himself or his management. Wikipedia requires professional and independent journalistic coverage, and such authors would not call him a genius all the time. He seems to have a knack for finding media companies that will reprint his own promotional statements, but he does not get an article here until the professionals notice. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 12:30, 3 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Agreed, Mr. Aboss isn't notable at this point, based on the source analysis. Best of luck to him. Oaktree b (talk) 13:53, 3 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, preferably speedily, per the above and this article's creation by a sockpuppet of a UPE account. See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Sjengul. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 21:13, 3 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
This will almost certainly be deleted, but if by some chance it is kept we should get rid of the misleading disambiguator from the title. There is no other article with the title "Hamza Abo$$" and he's a musician, not an artist. Phil Bridger (talk) 09:39, 4 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.