Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gwen Kaae

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete per WP:OR, WP:BIO, WP:N, WP:RS, and WP:V. This is essentially an unsourced, unverifiable biography with some claims possibly based on family stories or hearsay. Bearian (talk) 22:20, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Gwen Kaae

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Despite the claim of being America's first stuntwoman, I am having difficulty finding sources for this article, and believe that if the information in the article cannot be derived from reliable, published sources, it should not be on Wikipedia. Google searches of ["Gwen Kaae"] gives 23 Wikipedia-mirror hits. Full first name married surname ["Gwendlyn Kaae"] gives zilch, as does short first name maiden surname ["Gwen Gillaspy"] [1], and full first name maiden surname ["Gwendlyn Gillaspy"] [2]. Google Scholar has got nothing either

Also, the article was written in very emotional terms, and the more I tried to clean it up, the more I realised that this woman may not pass Wikipedia:Notability (people), even if the information could be sourced. She appeared as a stunt woman in a single film at age 12 and had (to quote the earlier version of the article) "a typical Leave it to Beaver life" before passing away. Fine for the family's personal website or genealogy profile, but without sources, I don't think it makes the cut on Wikipedia. -- saberwyn 12:01, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Strong delete Unsourced as per nom. You would think someone who was the first "stunt girl" in Hollywood woudl have something written about her? Wildthing61476 (talk) 14:04, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

• Delete, smacks of a family legend. The first stuntwoman in Hollywood was Helen Gibson, who has reams written about her. The claim here, that she was the first stunt "girl", presumably meaning underage, is dubious. Plenty of movies had been made by 1938, and it's hard to believe there was no precedent, and the claim that a little person was the only other option also seems a bit dubious. --Dhartung | Talk 18:55, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
• Delete as unsourced biography per WP:BIO. The subject is not even listed in the Internet Movie Database, even though her claim to notability is based on being a stunt girl in a movie. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 19:18, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
• Delete as per Dhartung, Metropolitan. Edward321 (talk) 01:56, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.