Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Guest House (2013 film)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Even the people arguing for keep say the sources aren't there, so this has to be delete. If somebody finds sources, this can be restored to draft and worked on there. Not going to salt this based on what's happened to other articles. -- RoySmith (talk) 13:24, 18 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Guest House (2013 film)[edit]

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I came across this via the AfD for Howling wolf productions. A look at the page shows that it's won awards at some minor film festivals, but none of them really seem like they'd be the type to warrant a keep on that basis alone. I also can't really find any reviews about the film that are in places that Wikipedia would really consider to be usable. The only one I found was one by the Santa Fe Film Festival, which showed the film and would thus be a primary source. I'm also somewhat concerned about the list of awards since the article asserts that it won the Best Short award at Santa Fe, but IMDb lists another film entirely as having won that award. I know that IMDb is not infalliable, but it also doesn't help that I can't really find anything to source this (the SFFF website doesn't have it listed on the film page) that isn't this Wikipedia article or something released by Howling Wolf themselves. I just don't see where this film is particularly noteworthy enough to really merit it having an article on Wikipedia. If anyone can find anything then that'd be great, but ultimately this just looks like it's a short film that won some awards at a few film festivals, but not at any that would really be considered to be overwhelmingly notable per Wikipedia's guidelines. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 07:01, 23 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Also concerning, but not really a reason to delete in and of itself are the sheer amount of SPAs that have been editing and creating Howling Wolf related articles on Wikipedia. I'm mentioning that more just so I can pre-emptively note that AfDs are not decided on a vote, but on a consensus based on policy. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 07:03, 23 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
If deleted, this will need to be salted given how frequently the articles for Aaron Wolf and Howling Wolf Productions were re-created, to the point where both required salting. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 07:06, 23 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:52, 23 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:52, 23 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: Am doing some looking, as it seems this short film and its awards have been spoken about briefly in reliable sources.[1][2][3][4] One might hope that the involvement of notables might show significant coverage to meet WP:NF, despite the SPA involvement. Will report back later. Schmidt, ^{Michael Q.} 17:10, 23 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

If you can save it, that'd be awesome. I'd rather keep it than delete it so we can have something to redirect some of the actor/director articles to since this is their biggest claim to fame so far. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 05:27, 24 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@MichaelQSchmidt: - any update? --ThaddeusB (talk) 16:02, 5 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@ThaddeusB: Been busy in the real world. Will see what I can do over this weekend. Schmidt, ^{Michael Q.} 10:17, 6 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — kikichugirl ^oh hello! 04:01, 2 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Sam Sailor ^Talk! 07:35, 9 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

MichaelQSchmidt: Have any luck, or should this go to the wayside? — Coffee // have a cup // beans // 01:45, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep per numerous awards. No the festivals are not as prestigious as Cannes or Sundance, but some are notable enough to themselves merit articles.. so that's something at least. The article is not a policy violation and, as we have no place where it might be merged or redirected, we can spend time digging for sources and continue improving it. Schmidt, ^{Michael Q.} 10:24, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete; despite promises, sources are not materializing. Can be undeleted if they show up. Stifle (talk) 11:33, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - I have to agree with what is being said above, there does seem to be an issue with sources. As the nom pointed out, the only sources I can find are from here (Wikipedia) or are primary sources from Howling Wolf. Aerospeed (Talk) 13:54, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep per MichaelQSchmidt. I agree the list of awards is rather significant, but would really like to see at least one good source. --ThaddeusB (talk) 14:18, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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