Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Group of Five conferences

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Procedural close. This was the right suggestion even though it didn't happen initially and then the situation of the nominated page changed. No prejudice against a clean speedy renomination. RL0919 (talk) 04:41, 27 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Group of Five conferences[edit]

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Redirect created with intention to cause conflict with an existing draft. PhanChavez (talk) 21:24, 19 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Page	Creation Date	User	Action
Draft:Group_of_Five_conferences	27 December 2019	User:Theroadislong	AfC: Lack of Notability
Group of Five conferences (redirect)	4 January 2020	User:Cardsplayer4life_2ndverse	Redirect created
Draft:Group_of_Five_conferences	16 January 2020	User:Robert_McClenon	AfC: Splitting

In fact, Draft: Group of Five used Power Five as a template, and was not in fact "split" from "Mid-major."

Specific details can be found on my talk page: User talk:PhanChavez

It appears that User:Cardsplayer4life_2ndverse first created the redirect, then updated numerous pages, around 20 edits, pointing to Mid-major.

On the other hand, User:Cardsplayer4life_2ndverse could have notified the draft created, started a talk page, explained the reasons for this action, instead of causing conflict. None of that was undertaken. But other edits were performed without notification of the in-progress draft having the same name.

I have submitted the redirect for deletion, and I would suggest the Draft be reviewed and approved for creation.

PhanChavez (talk) 21:40, 19 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hey there, they system emailed me saying my name was used in a comment so I came to investigate. I apologize if my redirect edit caused any conflict. I just did a search for "Group of Five Conference" in the search bar at the top and noticed that there was not an article or information on that, so I made a redirect to the information I found helpful. If there is a better spot for it to redirect to, then feel free to change it to a different location. I was just trying to be helpful for anyone searching in the future for the same thing as me. No harm intended and I apologize. Cardsplayer4life 2ndverse (talk) 02:29, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Procedural Close - This is a redirect that has been tagged for AFD. The proper forum is Redirects for Discussion. Either Twinkle has failed to recognize a redirect, or a new editor has made the good-faith errors both of not using Twinkle and of nominating this in the wrong forum. Take this to RFD. Robert McClenon (talk) 02:56, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I made a mistake. I took the above Procedural Close by User:Robert McClenon as a literal "This AfD is now closed." Followed the directions on the main page (redirect, proposed for deletion), added the keep note to the Talk page, then removed the delete note from the main page, and I've got Peachy (bot) crawling all over me. Apparently Procedural Close isn't the end of the discussion, and it is not actually closed. (More fun with confusion and lacking explanations for what needs to happen, when, where, in what order, etc.) The previous redirect was turned into an article and does not need to be deleted, per the WP:BB suggestion provided by removal to WP:RFD. PhanChavez (talk) 05:13, 26 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. I have no idea what is going on above in this AfD, but, much like the Power Five conferences, the Group of Five conferences is a notable college football concept that meets WP:GNG and WP:BASIC. Ejgreen77 (talk) 18:15, 26 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - It still appears that this AFD should be closed procedurally. I now understand how User:PhanChavez thought that I was closing the AFD procedurally. I will leave it to an administrator to figure out what to do. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:56, 26 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.