Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Greg watermann

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The result was delete. Ged UK 12:14, 16 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Greg watermann[edit]

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Greg Watermann really is a photographer of rock and roll subjects. However, the biography fails WP:GNG and Wikipedia:Notability (people). The depth of coverage about Watermann's life and career is not enough to merit an article. Binksternet (talk) 23:21, 8 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The content of this page was approved by the photographer himself, please explain how's "the depth of coverage about Watermann's life and career is not enough??Veryzak (talk) 23:37, 8 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Please read WP:GNG and Wikipedia:Notability (people) then you'll see what I'm talking about. Binksternet (talk) 00:23, 9 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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I've read them, I don't see 'personally' what defy these guidelines in Greg Watermann's case, Please elaborate your concerns whether its about the subject "greg watermann" or the way his info was written/gathered?? giving me a specific example (for other photographers) would be helpful Veryzak (talk) 01:24, 9 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Non-notable photographer lacking GHITS and Gnews of substance. References are primary in nature and article lacks secondary references. Fails WP:BIO. reddogsix (talk) 03:01, 9 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I'm finding some trivial mentions, but not much in the way of in-depth coverage so far. Veryzak, the thing about shooting famous people is that while it's not necessarily something that everyone can do, notability isn't really inherited by him having photographed multiple famous people. He has to have some coverage outside of that, which I'm not really seeing. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 03:24, 9 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Additional: Just to let everyone know, I've cleaned out all of the biographical info that can't be verified through RS. I left the lists of works, though. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 03:43, 9 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Here's some reference for Greg's work:

Watermann's credits for some of his works (videos and covers):

http://www.allmusic.com/artist/greg-watermann-mn0001635519

TV Interview:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=EfLi0NYBuv0#at=80

Linkin Park book:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kJXnZVwfEDI

Greg Watermann photos books, calendars on Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=ntt_athr_dp_sr_2?_encoding=UTF8&field-author=Greg%20Watermann&search-alias=books&sort=relevancerank

Greg on SNAP galleries:

http://www.snapgalleries.com/photographers/greg-watermann/

on Wikipedia itself:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?:::search=greg+watermann&title=Special%3ASearch&fulltext=1 Veryzak (talk) 09:21, 9 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Greg's article covering his Photos exhibition:

http://blogs.laweekly.com/westcoastsound/2009/05/last_night_i_photograph_rock_s.php

Greg Watermann is featured on Photocine:Digital Filmmaking with DSLRs Book,

http://www.amazon.com/dp/1435457366/tag=infiniteblue-20

Greg Watermann on Photocine news:

photocinenews.com/2011/09/12/pit-bull-euphoria-and-the-anticipation-of-walking-to-the-stage-by-greg-watermann/

Watermann's books on Goodreads:

http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/135080.Greg_Watermann

Greg's with GRAMMY Awards camp, interview about his works:

http://grammycampblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/greg-watermann-mann-behind-lens-by-nick.html Veryzak (talk) 08:58, 9 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Veryzak, you should tell Watermann to arrange somehow to have an article written about his life and career, published in a big magazine such as Rolling Stone, or a news magazine, or a big newspaper. Rather than simply listing his works or saying he was present at a certain event, the article should describe his origins, the way he got into photography, who were his influences, who he influenced in turn; stuff like that. Binksternet (talk) 14:36, 9 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Unfortunately these do not meet the criteria for independent, verifiable, secondary, reliable sources. reddogsix (talk) 09:38, 9 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Delete - References are mostly Youtube and other user generated sources. Wikipedia:Notability

FidelityTree (talk) 05:52, 12 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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