Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Graham Haddock

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The result was redirect to Scouting in Scotland. maintaining the history in case anyone wants to merge any of it into Scouting in Scotland J04n(talk page) 11:35, 6 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Graham Haddock

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Article is supported by a single news article, it is not about the subject but about a comment the subject made details about the comment do not make the subject notable but, if not already added there, should be added to the Scottish scouting article rather than be used to create a biographical article - my Google search did not reveal additional independent sources reporting the subject having a notable life to a limit to warrant/quality the standards of WP:BIO - related to WP:GNG - Youreallycan 20:52, 15 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete I am sure he is a fine person, but he is not notable per Wikipedia's definition. A Google News search found only the one article already cited on the page. Being one of the National Commissioners within The Scout Association does not appear to be an automatically notable position. I see no place in that article that names the commissioners, so I don't think a merge or redirect to The Scout Association is advisable. The subject is a physician, but there does not appear to be anything notable (by Wikipedia standards) about his medical career. --MelanieN (talk) 18:18, 18 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Merge with The_Scout_Association#Promise_and_Law as the news item is a useful counterpoint/addition to the discussion referenced there. Otherwise does not meet WP:BIO so I agree with no re-direct per MelanieN above.—Baldy Bill (talk) 14:15, 19 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect -- we have an article on the Chief Scout for UK and overseas territories (with a list of holders). WE have one on the equivalent Irish position (without a list), but none on the Scottish position. Until we have a list article, I do not think we can accept that the position makes him notable. Peterkingiron (talk) 14:44, 21 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe I'm misreading this, but it looks to me as if the Chief Scout is the head of scouting for the UK and overseas territories, and under that person are commissioners for the various parts of the UK - including a commissioner for Scotland, one for England, etc. Thus, Mr. Haddock's position as Commissioner for Scotland is not equivalent to the Chief Scout; he is at the next level below Chief Scout. See The Scout Association#Organisation. --MelanieN (talk) 01:04, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Courcelles 01:08, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Can't see anything notable, and agree that a redirect is pointless ---- _nonsense ferret 01:56, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, TBr and ley ^{(what's up)} 01:56, 29 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Non-notable. Eduemoni ^↑talk↓ 02:01, 29 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Contrary to the nominator, I see a number of interesting sources in my Google search. Subject is notable for being head of the Scottish Scouts, if you will, and has made some startling and controversial statements about dropping part of the UK scout oath to "God" and "Queen" which I find additionally notable. There is plenty of material to build a decent Wikipedia article here. Jus da fax 07:36, 29 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I'd say borderline, although on balance Keep. He is apparently National Commissioner for Escouts as well. If not keep, then an appropriate merge would be to Scouting in Scotland, which already mentions that there is "a Chief Commissioner of Scotland". Ben Mac Dui 10:10, 30 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Clarify -- I voted "redirect". I was suggesting that Cheif Scout desrved an article by national commissioners did not. I will now supoort a merge with Scouting in Scotland. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:45, 1 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I !voted "delete" but I would accept a merge/redirect to Scouting in Scotland. --MelanieN (talk) 15:26, 5 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.