Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gopal Bhatnagar
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The result was keep. Keep due to publications and RS coverage LFaraone 02:25, 1 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Gopal Bhatnagar[edit]
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Unremarkable surgeon, fails WP:BASIC and WP:ANYBIO. WWGB (talk) 05:16, 19 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - Appears to be doing what most surgeons in his line of work do. No evidence of notabilty. Fails WP:GNG.--Zananiri (talk) 12:29, 19 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Hello - With due respect, I don't believe he is just a regular surgeon. I speak this from experience through my dad several years ago. Some quick research and this is what I found. Wikipedia is about people contributing based on what is notable in local, national and international society. My favorite Wikipdia pillar is that it is lean and open to conversation and changes. Reference: The five pillars of Wikipedia
- He is the leading practitioner of a special form of heart surgery: "Minimally Invasive Beating Heart Surgery" and brought this practice to Trillium Health Centre. He is handful, I under 4, so that means about 26.5 Million may need him to save their lives. (26.5 Million Number of non-institutionalized adults with diagnosed heart disease in USA; There are ~565 Million People in North America and if based on US stats even if 10% have some heart disease, then we have ~56 Million people who could use one of these handful doctors to save their lives - I think having the skill and expertese in a field that could save many more lives is worthy of notice). Perhaps I may have missed some other points of view and welcome input. http://www.trilliumhealthcentre.org/programs_services/cardiac_services/mississauga/cardiacSurgery_beatingHeartSurgery.php
- He is the chief of staff to over 1200 doctors. http://www.trilliumhealthcentre.org/about/leadership/senior_leadership.php
- He is often in news and here is one I found online. I have often seen him on several news channels on TV: http://www.torontosun.com/news/torontoandgta/2010/11/06/16003036.html
- He is a leading researcher in his field. Some scientific journals here http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=%22Gopal+Bhatnagar%22 (Goes by name Dr. Gopal Bhatnagar, Gopal Mohan Bhatnagar, GM Bhatnagar, Bhatnagar GM, Bhatnagar G)
- He is winner of 2012 UFE Spring Session (grandmasters category): http://ufeshows.com/0/?page_id=1877# — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.231.40.68 (talk) 14:02, 19 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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- Keep - A notable researcher and doctor indeed — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.53.144.239 (talk) 23:36, 19 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak keep. Meets criterion 1 of WP:ANYBIO, having won this award that has its own WP article (see last sentence of article). But then I had a closer look and found out that they gave out a fairly large number of these awards. Still, maybe.King Jakob C2 00:21, 20 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - A prominent surgeon and well-renowned South Asian Canadian.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.158.21.58 (talk • contribs)
- Very weak keep He may pass WP:SCHOLAR based on his cites at Google Scholar, although in all of those paper he is merely one of a thundering herd of authors, neither first nor last. Does not pass WP:GNG or WP:ANYBIO due to insufficient independent coverage. The award appears to be too common to count as a "well-known and significant award or honor". --MelanieN (talk) 16:52, 20 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - I note that earlier this month the Credit Valley Hospital Foundation announced the endowment of a Research Chair in his name to honour him: (http://trilliumhealthpartners.ca/newsroom/Pages/Newsreleases.aspx) This is indeed a rare accolade, and one of the highest honours, an established teaching or academic hospital can confer, certainly more significant than the jubilee award dished out by the thousands. Therefore, all things considered, I think the article should be kept. It seems he does pass WP:GNG after all.--Zananiri (talk) 17:22, 21 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - I am a University of Toronto medical student. Dr. Bhatnagars name has come up several times. I understand he just stepped down from his Chief of Staff duties to focus on new initiatives. I would love to do my residency with him. Minimally invasive beating heart surgery is something i believe can save a lot more lives. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.162.136.30 (talk) 05:10, 23 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Relisting comment: Almost none of the keep votes above are grounded in policy, and to avoid a potential WP:NAC, this needs further commentating
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Secret account 23:43, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Had his accomplishments/awards been recognized by independant sources this might squeek by but the research chair named in his honor is only revealed through a press release. As mentioned previously the Jubilee Medal is given to many recepients, apparently 24 in 2013. If he had pioneered beating heart surgery rather than being a practitioner of it that might count. Unfortunately he doesn't meet WP:GNG. J04n(talk page) 10:19, 28 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - As this source indicates Bhatnagar performed the first cardiopulmonary bypass surgery in Canada in 2004: http://www.mississauga.com/news/article/1592027--former-hospital-chiefs-honoured-with-research-chairs Seems to meet WP:GNG. In any case, it is not de rigueur for institutions to issue such press releases or for the press to report on such Chairs being established at teaching hospitals or universities. More important is the fact that the Chairs are usually there long after the people in whose names they were created have left this world.--Zananiri (talk) 13:26, 28 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. Scholar is indicating an h-index of at least 17. This Toronto Star article seems to have sufficient converage to significantly expand the article for Bhatnager's early life. SpinningSpark 23:53, 30 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - Trillium appears to be a notable health centre, he has set a record, and appears to have just enough coverage for WP:N. Revolution1221 (talk) 22:58, 31 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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