Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gomes Elementary School (2nd nomination)

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The result was redirect to Fremont Unified School District. Courcelles 19:09, 15 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Gomes Elementary School[edit]

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nonnotable elementary school. WP policy on elementary schools means they are not automatically worth of an article just for existing. Mercurywoodrose (talk) 06:45, 6 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. — Red Baboon (talk) 09:06, 6 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to district's page, and if that is not appropriate delete... there's no reason this should take two AfDs to resolve. Independent elementary school pages need some pretty obvious reason to be notable on their own... not seeing that here at all. Shadowjams (talk) 09:37, 6 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect per standard practice for elementary schools. This ended No Consensus the first time around (2007) on the basis of the arguments of some that a school being designated "Blue Ribbon" conferred notability on an elementary school. Clear consensus in 2011 is that high test scores are well and good, but are not sufficient to set aside our well established practice of considering elementary schools non-notable save in extreme circumstances. Having the simple rule of thumb SECONDARY SCHOOLS IN, PRIMARY SCHOOLS OUT saves us all from having to parse sourcing for tens of thousands of articles on schools. No disrespect to the kids, teachers, and administrators involved — good work, etc. — but things really do need to be this way, with elementary schools redirecting to the district or city (with information merged there if desired), rather than sitting as stand-alone articles. Carrite (talk) 17:05, 6 August 2011 (UTC) Last edit: Carrite (talk) 17:08, 6 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to list, thats a better option than deletion, as it makes searching easier.(original nominator)Mercurywoodrose (talk) 17:06, 6 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. — • Gene93k (talk) 23:43, 6 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - normally I would support redirecting an elementary school but a few are notable and I would say that this is one of that few. Firstly, as a Blue Ribbon School it has won the highest award available to US schools, an award that less than 5% of schools achieve. Secondly, if we take the sources in the article together with others available [1][2][3], they are sufficient to meet WP:GNG. TerriersFan (talk) 15:34, 7 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

That award was from 1987... there are over 80,000 elementary schools in the U.S. alone [4], which is why the bright lines work well, I don't see a reason to abandon that in this case. Shadowjams (talk) 22:45, 8 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed, but we have long considered that the Blue Ribbon makes the recipient school notable and notability is not temporary. I agree that most of those 80,000 schools are not-notable but this one is. TerriersFan (talk) 15:10, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Merge & Redirect to district page. Any information that is referenced by a secondary or tertiary reliable source, should be made into its own section within the district page, as is common practice. --RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 18:17, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.