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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Merge→Elvis Presley. Considering the structure of the target article, the merge would lead to dispersal of the content rather than creation of a new section. User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 11:24, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Fails WP:BIO. Notability isn't inherited. Her son may be the King, but she's not the Queen Mother. Clarityfiend 21:05, 16 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment is it really called "inherited" if it goes from child to parent? Shouldn't it be called "exherited"? In all seriousness, though, I'm not sure if she fails WP:BIO or not. Useight 21:26, 16 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. Outherited? upherited? unherited? I couldn't find any biography for her. Most people don't know her first name. She does have a small entry in IMDb, but that's hardly enough. Clarityfiend 21:36, 16 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Merge To the King's article, this can easily be integrated with.--JForget 22:52, 16 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- It's a Hound Dog of an article, and I keep telling myself Don't be Cruel, but this article has to be Returned to Sender. Just Because she's related to the King doesn't mean she's notable herself. If sources are found One Night before the end of the AfD, though, That's All Right. (In other words, Merge per Clarityfiend unless sourced.) Thank you, thank you very much. --Charlene 04:12, 17 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 15:35, 17 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Mississippi-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 15:35, 17 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Strong keep. Notable figure in her own right, recognized as having a major influence on Elvis' life, and being portrayed on numerous occasions in film and TV by notable actors. I agree that there's no point in doing articles about Elvis' entire family tree, but this aricle is about a persona more than notable enough to warrant a separate article. There should also be one on Vernon Presley, too, but no one's written one yet, it seems. 23skidoo 01:04, 18 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge to Elvis Presley, unless article can be improved with verifiable sources per WP:ATT to establish independent notability. --Ace of Swords
- Delete per nom., probably all mothers of notable people have a "major influence" on their offspring's life - providing 50% of the genetic material even if they put the kid up for adoption seems to be influential in a major way as we learn that much behavior and temperment may have a genetic component (see Minnesota Twin Family Study and read the data generated by that study). That said, it does not make the mother of every notable here also notable. Or father, and grandparents, etc. Carlossuarez46 20:53, 18 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep.I searched for her and wanted to know more. --Timtak 03:17, 19 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete No independent notability, she can't be called a "notable figure in her own right" because her only claim to notability is being the mother of Elvis (the article even fails to assert any independent notability). If this article is kept it sets a bad precedent for the creation of other articles about parents of famous people. The similar AFD at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Agnes Carpenter was deleted for these reasons. Masaruemoto 03:41, 21 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.