Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Giovanni Pini

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Nomination was withdrawn. (non-admin closure) Kraxler (talk) 00:20, 12 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Giovanni Pini

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Delete:Promising player who has played a handful of games for the first team of Pallacanestro Reggiana and is a regular for the Italian under age national sides. However he has recieved sparse coverage, of which next to none is in depth or independent (even when he transfered to another team). This is not enugh of this stage to establish notabiliy, case of WP:TOOSOON in my eyes ArmstrongJulian (talk) 15:33, 2 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - playing even one game in Serie A (which he has done) does meet WP:NBASKETBALL. However, if the subject doesn't meet WP:GNG it could still be deleted on those grounds. I should have time to review sources this evening to see if that is the case. Rikster2 (talk) 14:27, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The guidelines would need freshening up, playing one game in the Serie A really does not generate that much coverage, I would personally change them to "has played the equivalent of a season" which would normally ensure decent coverage. Having tried to find sources and flesh out the article, I struggled to find anything more than passing mentions and routine coverage, and that's despite understanding Italian. Most of the significant coverage would come from local newspaper GazzettadiReggio, for english sources I doubt you'll get more than a passing mention on FIBA Europe, I don't even think Eurobasket.com had anything. --ArmstrongJulian (talk) 19:14, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Given that for WP:NFOOTY playing an one game of any fully professional league (including American minor leagues, which is nuts and doesn't compare with how we treat minor league baseball or basketball, which get MUCH more coverage than soccer) I'm not that interested in changing the guideline. We are one of the stricter ones and would be better off staying with GNG in this case. Plus, when I look at his profile it looks like he has played 45 games - that seems significant. Rikster2 (talk) 19:42, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Basketball-related deletion discussions. --ArmstrongJulian (talk) 22:11, 4 September 2015 (UTC)--ArmstrongJulian (talk) 22:05, 4 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Italy-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:05, 5 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:05, 5 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep In addition to the list of Gazzetta di Reggio articles listed above, Google News turns up a decent amount of hits. Some may be trivial but others cerainly do not. Passes NBASKETBALL by virtue of playing in the Serie A as well as GNG. Sources do not need to be in English to establish notability. ~EDDY ^{(talk/contribs)}~ 12:28, 5 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —☮JAaron95 ^Talk 14:33, 9 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - in addition to meeting WP:NBASKETBALL, this and this are probably sufficient independent reliable sources to show GNG for a stub of this size. Rikster2 (talk) 18:26, 10 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Withdraw nomination: The general opinion is that there's enough coverage to establish notablity and I'll go with that. I've updated the article with more sources, a bit light but it can only get better from now on and does not warrant deletion from now. --ArmstrongJulian (talk) 18:54, 11 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.