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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep‎. When factoring in NmWTfs85lXusaybq's intent to withdraw, there is consensus here to keep the disambiguation page. (non-admin closure) Schminnte [talk to me] 16:44, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Gilbert Affleck (disambiguation)[edit]

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This disambiguation page has a primary topic for the ambiguous title while all the other ones are included in the same article Affleck baronets. The criteria WP:G14 may apply like that for Insta (disambiguation) (deleted by UtherSRG, see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Insta (disambiguation)), as the only one extant Wikipedia page got disambiguated is Gilbert Affleck. A hatnote on the top of primary topic is sufficient like that in the case of WP:ONEOTHER. NmWTfs85lXusaybq (talk) 04:09, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete: We don't need disambiguation pages for item that don't even have an article. Cortador (talk) 06:58, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    @Cortador: Besides Affleck baronets, this dab has an entry linked to Suffolk Militia now. I'm withdrawing this nomination if you strick your vote. NmWTfs85lXusaybq (talk) 11:07, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Cortador, we absolutely do need dabs when they don't have an article, that is what MOS:DABRL and MOS:DABMENTION cover. Readers are looking for information on a 'Gilbert Affleck', the dab is their index, even if it's a small amount. Additionally, I have added a 4th entry. The nominator is drive-by tagging hundreds of pages for deletion with no BEFORE. Boleyn (talk) 08:40, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: Valid and useful dab page, helping readers and editors to disentangle several holders of the same name on whom we have at least a little information in the encyclopedia. PamD 09:02, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Said holders are already listed in the Affleck baronets article, and only one seems to be independently notable (with having his own article). Boleyn added a fourth entry of a military leader, but I haven't seen evidence that that leader is independently notable either. Cortador (talk) 10:41, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    They don't need to be notable, just a term from which a redirect would be appropriate per WP:Redirect and in particular WP:R#KEEP. If the term to be redirected has other uses, then the link needs to be provided by a dab page or a hatnote on the primary topic. When the hatnote would become cumbersome, a dab page is the solution. PamD 09:23, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Discussion re-opened and relisted per Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2023 November 27.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel (talk) 17:28, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep - When there is only one meaning to a term and no article, but an obscure reference to an article with a different name, we sometimes create a redirect. The disambiguation page serves the function of those redirects, for unlikely but possible search terms. Robert McClenon (talk) 05:14, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • All of the items on the disambiguation page are only cursory mentions. Do any of them have actual WP:POTENTIAL to become of interest to the readers? Otherwise, the hatnote might as well just point to the Affleck baronets list, it's not terribly difficult to find Gilberts in there. --Joy (talk) 14:18, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, as there are sufficient mentions of people named "Gilbert Affleck" who are noteworthy enough to have their name properly listed in an encyclopedia article, such that it might be useful to a reader to have them pointed to in the event that Gilbert Affleck is not the subject of their search. BD2412 T 00:35, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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