Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gianluca Minieri

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. The only explicit opinions are for deletion, and I can't see anybody taking the walls of text about how important, etc., this person is seriously - at least not in terms of our inclusion guidelines, which is what matters. Sandstein 17:30, 15 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Gianluca Minieri[edit]

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Non-notable individual lacking support for claims. reddogsix (talk) 01:21, 23 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Mr Gianluca Minieri recently has been nominated most influential trader in the financial Markets and is a vital source for Finance Universities to understand the work mr Minieri has done and must have a knowledge of him as an individual and his background as a university course requirement. Furthermore Mr Gianluca has been featured on Bloomberg financial magazines almost every month now and is a key topic for financial researchers and Bankers. His work has a an immediate effect on the global markets of Asia, Europe and America. He is a key individual with more then sufficient references of importance through the hundreds of interviews and Financial newspapers and magazine interviews on such well known website like Trading Desk, Bloomberg and many others. Interviewers and journalist find great use in this page in order to understand his work carried out. Likewise we, the university association of Finance request that this page is kept as wikipedia is a source of great importance to our alumni and Mr Gianluca is a key element in not only student research but Working colleagues and financial market associates as a whole. Thank you Please note all research was done from articles and references are currently published and researched.

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Italy-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 15:46, 24 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 15:46, 24 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as News, Books, browsers and Highbeam all found links but essentially all trivial mentions. SwisterTwister talk 05:19, 25 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - It is an obvious fact that articles will be partially talking about Mr Minieri as he is not a singer or actor but Executive vice president and global head of Trading In a trading bank. in the world of finance magazines rely on multiple opinions of traders but Mr Minieri has been nominated One of the most influential traders of 2015 making him a key subject in the study of finance and the markets. No banker or in fact trader will have an article of his own as for people in the banking industry there is no interest in an extremely long biography but rather on the individual as well as his work and opinions of others. This Article is key in the studies of Journalists for interviews, students at university level and traders. As you can see if you were to read articles about other top traders on wikipedia trivial mentions will always be the case but for sure to not signify non importance of an individual as in Trading magazines like Bloomberg where mr minieri was featured It is a normal custom to talk partially about him/her. The links and references are for use of confirming the status of the individual like mr Minieri and confirming the claimed work he has done. Furthermore Financial magazines like Bloomberg do not decide to write articles regarding any person but only key individuals of interest which is why Mr Minieri was Chosen. With no doubt I support that this article should be kept and all required information was provided in order to keep it active. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by YourJames100 (talk • contribs) 14:09, 25 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Unfortunately, if there are only trivial mentions of the individual, he will not meet the criteria for inclusion into Wikipedia. Valid support per Wikipedia guidelines is the key to an individual's notability. reddogsix (talk) 17:24, 25 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment -There are not only trivial mentions but if someone actually went through the links it would be very obvious that that is not the case. All references are current and active, they are genuine from large important publishers. there are articles about Mr Minieri only. Wikipedia is a place where articles for use of students and professionals must be uploaded which can be of their interest and of use. We for a fact know this individual is a key source of research in the financial market. I would like to bring this matter forward to a supervisor possibly as I do feel this time there is absolutely no attempt to take my request and opinion into consideration nor anyone is actually reading what I am writing. I think this ignorant attitude from wikipedia is shameful and as a major supporter and donator the site I think it is a shameful behaviour and I will be talking to the university association in order to bring consequences forward in terms of stop donations. Subsequently what I am saying is not that someone can upload what he/she wants when he/she makes donations but in my case I am responsible of teaching finance, I have included all needed and required references, and I know this individual is key in the financial market, I should have the right to upload this article. It is not my fault that whom is in the office like the wikipedia administrators have no knowledge of bankers and traders but it is understandable as you work in a different sector. As much as you people know about Justin Bieber and other singers and actors, for us these are our individuals of importance which benefit hundreds of people and it is unfair that working people an students must suffer consequences of the lack of knowledge regarding these individuals from wikipedia. I wish you take this matter forward if possible with whoever is responsible. — Preceding unsigned comment added by YourJames100 (talk • contribs) 19:41, 25 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Do you really think making threats will help you case? There are no supervisors in Wikipedia, this is a community driven encyclopedia. If you are not aware of that I would question your knowledge and subsequent "donations" to Wikipedia. Since you created the article, you have the WP:BURDEN to provide reliable support for the article, something you have failed to do. I would also strongly suggest you read WP:UNCIVIL and WP:LEGAL before responding further. reddogsix (talk) 22:39, 25 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - There is no threat being made, your lack of knowledge is a threat to this site. This is perfect proof that you do not read what I am writing. Please I wish to speak to someone responsible regarding the article or to a supervisor, I don't have time to waste on stupid discussions that don't go anywhere. Thanks— Preceding unsigned comment added by YourJames100 (talk • contribs) 08:40, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - A comment like, "I will be talking to the university association in order to bring consequences forward in terms of stop(sic) donations" certainly is a threat. Again, there is no supervisor, it you wish to get help I suggest you go to WP:EAR for help. Oh, and once again, please read WP:UNCIVIL before responding on this page - your comments really do not assume good faith. reddogsix (talk) 20:34, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment -No use in commenting with someone like you. My reasons were listed above and now you are harassing me and you have gone off topic. I have signalled your behaviour to wikipedia. Have a nice day — Preceding unsigned comment added by YourJames100 (talk • contribs)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 01:27, 30 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 09:06, 7 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

On the one hand, I'm seeing good secondary sources which reference Minieri as an expert, but on the other these tend to be brief mentions and I've not been able to find anything particularly substantive which suggests he is specifically notable as an individual. I can believe that it is possible he is notable and that there are references which describe his important contributions to the field, but I'm not seeing them. JMWt (talk) 12:48, 7 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I am a finance student from the institute of finance of Manhattan. I have opened a case in the univeristy and institute to help keep this page live as it was great use to me in my last essay. Your comments are correct and much more fair then your last collegue as I can see. I have foun this article which is only about mr minieri and his number 46 banker in the world interview. http://www.fi-desk.com/onthe-desk-gianluca-minieri-pioneer-investments/

Should I include it in the links? Well, I will attempt to. Other students are searching further information and articles based on the magazines we have in university where mr minieri was on. Thanks— Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.74.224.5 (talk • contribs) 14:05, 10 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Unfortunately, the reference you provided is a primary reference - in interview - the article still lacks secondary references. reddogsix (talk) 15:23, 11 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

With all honesty I dont still understand what else wikipedia could possibly want. Mr minieri is a banker and trader, not a singer or actor. It is very different in terms of searching for sources. The amount of sources this page has are mpre then can be found onany banker and in my opinion do demonstarte his status and importance. On the other hand this article is of great use to students like us. What else can be done, can you kindly look for links as well to help keep this page up. We really need it. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.255.234.194 (talk) 19:45, 13 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - searches did not turn up enough in-depth coverage to show they pass notability criteria. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 13:23, 15 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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