Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gianluca Freddi

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep. ¿¡Exir Kamalabadi?!^{Join Esperanza!} 09:47, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Gianluca Freddi

Youth player and not yet played for first team. Matt86hk talk 09:20, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

• This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of football (soccer) related deletions. Matt86hk talk 09:28, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
• Weak Keep per WP:BIO:

  Sportspeople/athletes/competitors who have played in a fully professional league, or a competition of equivalent standing in a non-league sport such as swimming, or at the highest level in mainly amateur sports or other competitive activites that are themselves considered notable, including college sports in the United States. Articles about first team squad members who have not made a first team appearance may also be appropriate, but only if the individual is at a club of sufficient stature that most members of its squad are worthy of articles. Third party verification from a non-trivial publication outside of publications by sponsors of the sport or activity should be provided to demonstrate that the subject is widely recognized—meeting the first criteria—as performing at the highest level.

  Serie A club players are definately in the category of "a club of sufficient stature that most members of its squad are worthy of articles". The last sentence I quoted is the only part that is giving me a slight concern, hence the weak keep rather than normal/strong keep. Daniel.Bryant 09:30, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
• Comment I'm neutral on this one. He has made his first team debut [1], and he has a first team squad number but as yet there isn't much information about him available. As a young player he might establish notability beyond doubt in the near future, but equally he might not. Oldelpaso 09:59, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Weak keep Sorry about not checking he made debut or not. Not info. in http://www.asroma.it . But the article is lack of information, not stub tag, and no cat, and confuse with other speedy creation problem in Liverpool F.C. youth player , S.S. Lazio and F.C. Internazionale Milano Primavera . Matt86hk talk 13:04, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

• Keep - Both WP:BIO and consensus from past AfDs is that if a player is listed as a first-team squad member for a leading club (which Roma undoubtedly are), that qualifies him as notable regardless of how few first-team appearances he's made - unlike past deletion of Liverpool youth or Internazional primavera players, who are/were nowhere near the first team. The article sucked a bit (I just added categories and a stub notice), but that's an argument for improvement, not deletion. Qwghlm 13:50, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. Professional footballer for a major club. Obviously notable. -- Necrothesp 00:38, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
• keep please professional footballer who is notable Yuckfoo 01:58, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

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