Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Geua Tom

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The result was redirect to List of Papua New Guinea women Twenty20 International cricketers. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 19:11, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Geua Tom[edit]

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While the subject has played at the international level, and thus would meet WP:CRIN, the subject does not pass WP:GNG as no significant coverage of her exists. Per WP:NSPORTS2022 "sports biographies must include at least one reference to a source providing significant coverage of the subject". This may also be a case of WP:TOOSOON as the first international game was played less than 2 weeks ago. W 42 16:44, 3 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Women, and Cricket. W 42 16:44, 3 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to ~~List of United Arab Emirates women Twenty20 International cricketers~~ List of Papua New Guinea women Twenty20 International cricketers. Fails WP:NSPORT both WP:NCRIC and WP:SPORTCRIT. With no significant coverage, and all the sources being statistics or passing mentions in routine sports reports/announcements, inclusion here is best done in an appropriate list. _wjemather^{please leave a message...} 17:44, 3 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople and Oceania. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 18:43, 3 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Presumably Wjemather means redirect to List of Papua New Guinea women Twenty20 International cricketers? I'd go along with that redirect certainly. Blue Square Thing (talk) 09:01, 4 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Yes, of course. Copy-paste error while redirecting a batch of other similar stubs to avoid more AFDs! _wjemather^{please leave a message...} 11:30, 4 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to List of Papua New Guinea women Twenty20 International cricketers (as appears to have been done with others). I keep asking people not to create these anymore despite in this case having played in a major qualifier event unless they can find additional coverage. Thanks also for adding the nolink parameters on the list page. Bs1jac (talk) 09:09, 4 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I would also agree with the comment that this is a case of WP:TOOSOON. There are still a couple of users at least who create players (either as stubs or redirects) as soon as an individual features in certain tournaments, when really playing in said tournament should only be the first step towards a page being potentially viable. Bs1jac (talk) 15:11, 7 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This page should stay as the player has played in 2022 ICC Women's T20 World Cup Qualifier tournament. As per Wiki Project Cricket Notability, the player's page can be created. Thanks,Vikram Maingi (talk) 14:46, 4 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, according to WP:NCRIC, WP:CRIC notability point 2 and WP:OFFCRIC (international cricket point 3), a person from an associate nation playing in the women's T20 WC Qualifier passes minimum cricketing criteria, but they must also meet WP:GNG. Bs1jac (talk) 20:27, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to List of Papua New Guinea women Twenty20 International cricketers Fails WP:NCRIC as T20I matches weren't in notable competitions for notability, but more importantly fails WP:GNG. Redirect here is a suitable WP:ATD. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 17:53, 4 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Technically the T20I matches in question are notable enough according to WP:CRIN which expands on WP:NCRIC, and WP:OFFCRIC; but that changes nothing as the player must still meet WP:GNG. Bs1jac (talk) 08:49, 6 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It should be noted that since the changes to NSPORT following the WP:NSPORT2022 RFC (particularly the removal of participation based criteria), it's clear that (as it stands) CRIN does not have community support, so cannot be used to determine notability in any way. _wjemather^{please leave a message...} 10:05, 6 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ah I thought that the big update to NCRIC had sorted all of that. Regardless, Associate nation players need to pass GNG going forward anyway. Bs1jac (talk) 16:11, 6 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to List of Papua New Guinea women Twenty20 International cricketers in line with WP:ATD. BoJó | talk UTC 13:51, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.