Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Get Him Back!

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect‎ to Guts (Olivia Rodrigo album). ✗plicit 14:01, 18 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Get Him Back!

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Too soon for this to have a separate page per WP:Notability (music)#Songs (WP:NSONGS). The only credible sources that discuss the track at all just give minor mentions. It's unlikely to obtain more detailed coverage before the parent album Guts is released next month. Until this is covered beyond a cumulative paragraph in something that isn't just an album review or artist/label/producer/songwriter commentary, the page isn't worthy of being kept. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 12:29, 11 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Albums and songs and Music. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 12:29, 11 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

*Draftify: Is a case of WP:TOOSOON. Lack of independent significant coverage to have a standalone mainspace article now. User:Let'srun 13:10, 11 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

~~Draftify~~ for the time being as this is far too soon and we don't even know if it's getting a single release yet. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 14:33, 11 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Changing to redirect to the album page as I didn't see the existing draft mentioned below. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 09:55, 13 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Draftify per above. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 15:24, 11 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose draftifying - A draft for this article already exists and doing that will unnecessarily waste community time. I was going to be a keep vote, obviously, but if consensus strongly leans towards it then I'd rather deal with the redirect to Guts until the likely release date of August 25.--N Ø 16:06, 11 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

While I didn't know of the pre-existing draft, that release date only appears to be speculation at the moment. Let's take it with a grain of salt until official confirmation comes along. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 16:23, 11 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm switching to keep per a very reliable ATRL insider (BlackoutZone) confirming "Get Him Back!" is the single being released on August 25. I know it's not the most ideal thing to back up my claim but I can vouch for his reliability and I am just trying to save everyone some time. Since the article is extremely likely "to grow beyond [a] stub" within 11 days I'm considering an exception per WP:NSONGS. There is no reason to inconvenience the 1000s of people viewing the page daily.--N Ø 09:39, 14 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

ATRL is an untrustworthy forum and thus shouldn't be taken at face value for claims like this. You definitely would need something much stronger than any "insider" who posts things there. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 11:19, 14 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

BlackoutZone is reliable and announced songs like "Your Power" by Billie Eilish before their release was confirmed anywhere else. The song is definitely coming on August 25. Just to be clear, I am not suggesting citing him in the article but just using him in the context of my stand on this deletion nomination. That's all from me. Thanks.--N Ø 11:43, 14 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Regardless of whether BlackoutZone has previously been right on things or can be trusted, that doesn't compensate for how there so far still aren't any good references discussing the track beyond a cumulative paragraph. To keep the page before those come along would be jumping the gun. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 11:49, 14 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It's a keep vote from me as previously noted.--N Ø 12:08, 14 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Guts (Olivia Rodrigo album) until we have an idea what's going on. Nate • (chatter) 18:56, 11 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect - the coup de main source in the article appears to be the only one out there at the moment that helps with establishing the song's notability - and even then the content is predicated upon speculation . ‍ ‍ Elias 🌊 ‍ ‍ ^{💬 "Will you call me?"}
_{📝 "Will you hang me out to dry?"} 04:51, 14 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
In the absence of mainstream reliable sources confirming future notability, redirect to Guts (Olivia Rodrigo album) per WP:CRYSTALBALL until independent notability is demonstrable. Heartfox (talk) 00:19, 15 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. While I would probably say to keep on this, I will save everyone from hearing my long rants about the silliness of NSONG because this is not the place. However, if you're going to do anything with this article, just WP:BLAR. Do not let it languish in draftspace and there is no need to let the author's work go to waste by deleting when it will become notable in a week or two. ULPS (talk) 01:25, 15 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Guts (Olivia Rodrigo album) until an independent release and/or further notability has been confirmed by reliable sources. Unreleased material shouldn't automatically become notable just because the parent album/artist is notable. D🐶ggy54321 ^{(let's chat!)} 11:48, 16 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.