Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Germantown-Chestnut Hill, Philadelphia

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Black Kite (talk) 22:53, 31 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Germantown-Chestnut Hill, Philadelphia[edit]

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No such actual neighborhood exists. Sure, there is a region labeled on the phonebook map as such, but those are just two neighborhoods out of the many in that yellow section. JesseRafe (talk) 23:20, 5 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Also, all the neighborhoods in this supposed neighborhood have their own pages, all better than this one, and this is also unnecessarily separated from and redundant to the Northwest Philadelphia article. Mainly saying there's nothing here that isn't anywhere else already, in addition to being an article about a thing that isn't a thing. JesseRafe (talk) 23:32, 5 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Pennsylvania-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 23:37, 5 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep (but rename it to "Upper Northwest Philadelphia") - This is one of the 12 official planning districts according to the Philadelphia Planning Commission. If anything, "Northwest Philadelphia" should be renamed to this article, although Roxborough-Manayunk is another official planning district that is also in "Northwest Philadelphia". I didn't see anything official regarding "Northwest Philadelphia". I say keep both if they are both well sourced. It's just odd not to have the official district represented in the nav box as with other county boxes also show officially named sections of towns. --Minormadam (talk) 03:26, 7 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment If that's the case, why is this so dreadfully unsourced? And why do results for "Germantown-Chestnut Hill" only result in addresses in Chestnut Hill on Germantown Avenue. JesseRafe (talk) 00:37, 8 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Ok - I see the problem. The site that used to refer to this as "Germantown-Chestnut Hill" now refers to this as "Upper Northwest Philadelphia". I do see some real estate sites that still refer to this as "Germantown-Chestnut Hill", but the official designation on the "Philadelphia 2035" site now refers to it with a new name (I think the old name was still there last week). It's notable enough I believe to have a separate article to reflect the official designations. See Upper Northwest and Lower Northwest. The demographic, population numbers and density figures were published somewhere, but I lost the original source (it may have been a real estate website that had it).--Minormadam (talk) 11:21, 8 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment By the way, there are now 18 official sections instead of 12.

They are now...

Central (existing)
Central Northeast (new)
Lower Far Northeast (new)
Lower North (existing)
Lower Northeast (new - probably the same as "Near Northeast")
Lower Northwest (new - the same as "Roxborough-Manayunk")
Lower South (new)
Lower Southwest (new)
North (existing - though the original borders have changed)
North Delaware (new)
River Wards (new - same as "Bridesburg-Kensington-Richmond")
South (existing - though smaller than the original South Philadelphia)
University Southwest (new - previously part of West Philadelphia)
Upper North (new - most likely the same as Olney-Oak Lane)
Upper Northwest (new - the same as "Germantown-Chestnut Hill)
Upper Far Northeast (new)
West (existing)
West Park (new)

This should be changed in the template as well.--Minormadam (talk) 11:32, 8 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - These are planning artifacts, and not neighborhoods (although they contain neighbourhoods). I can find no significant coverage about this planning district as distinct from material about the consituent neighbourhoods. -- Whpq (talk) 13:35, 9 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Very Weak Keep Here's the source (p. 15/21). Seems like it would be worth having articles for the planing analysis sections. Emmette Hernandez Coleman (talk) 08:23, 11 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- That is a primary source. How do you believe that establishes notability? -- Whpq (talk) 11:02, 11 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  - That's part of the reason the keep is very weak. Emmette Hernandez Coleman (talk) 19:24, 11 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    - So what's the reason that it is even a keep at all? -- Whpq (talk) 00:32, 12 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Bushranger _{One ping only} 01:00, 13 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Fails notability in it's own right. If anything should be part of a page on the planning district, but not a subject of it's own. Caffeyw (talk) 07:25, 14 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 00:34, 22 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep and rename to Upper Northwest, Philadelphia per above discussion. Candleabracadabra (talk) 18:33, 22 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.