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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Consensus to delete, we wouldn't move the draft space an article on an individual where there is no evidence of the likelihood that they might become notable in the future Fenix down (talk) 12:02, 20 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Georgia Iannella[edit]

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Footballer who played only 5 games in a league which fails WP:FOOTYN in that it's not listed here, and also per precedence in this discussion, this discussion, this discussion, this discussion, this discussion, this discussion, this discussion and this discussion. Career is not ongoing; it's closing on 2 years since last time she played a game. Geschichte (talk) 11:59, 13 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete Played her games a in league that is not listed as fully-professional. Besides being a WP:GNG fail, the subject also fails WP:FOOTYN. Modussiccandi (talk) 15:22, 13 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - fails GNG and NFOOTBALL. Please can editors (yes you @Geschichte and Modussiccandi:!) stop using FOOTYN in AFDs, it's nothing more than an out-of-date WikiProject essay and is therefore, respectfully, worthless for player notabiltiy. What you want to say is "she has not played in a fully-professional league listed at WP:FPL, failing WP:NFOOTBALL - and also fails WP:GNG".GiantSnowman 16:03, 13 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for pointing this out! I should have known better. Modussiccandi (talk) 17:30, 13 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@GiantSnowman: Well, WP:FPL is an essay too, so... --SuperJew (talk) 17:52, 14 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
True, but it is also used as a qualifier for presumed notability for WP:NFOOTY. And failing the relevant notability guidelines is a valid argument for deletion. FOOTYN is really only useful for certain club and league articles. Jay eyem (talk) 16:38, 15 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak keep I agree this article may be WP:TOOSOON in order to meet WP:GNG. WP:FPL is unreliable -- particularly for women's leagues. I've added a couple references and an award in case she kicks ass out of college and an editor wants to recreate the article with what's already here as a starting point. See Category:Wikipedia administrators willing to provide copies of deleted articles. Looks like she's also a cricketer. Hmlarson (talk) 02:22, 16 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete/draftify - still young and plenty of time for her career to resume in whichever sport she chooses; I would have to say that she doesn't look to pass GNG currently though Spiderone 08:42, 16 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - Changed my mind. Keep per WP:GNG and WP:SPORTBASIC. N:FOOTY and its essay is inadequate for players in top women's football (soccer) leagues around the world. Hmlarson (talk) 01:21, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete WP:GNG not demonstrated, as there is no significant coverage of the individual. A Google search did not return any relevant sources. Haven't a clue what the argument in favor using SPORTBASIC is supposed to be. It even argues that individuals are likely to meet the criteria if they have "participated in a major international amateur or professional competition at the highest level (such as the Olympics)", which hasn't been demonstrated here (i.e. no Women's World Cup appearance). Currently provided citations are fairly trivial with regards to the player in question. Plus there is a more specific criteria for footballers at WP:NFOOTY which the player does not pass either (no senior international appearance or games played in a fully-professional league). And per WP:DEL-REASON, failing the relevant notability criteria is justification for deletion. A discussion about the criteria for NFOOTY belongs at WT:NSPORT, not AfD. Jay eyem (talk) 04:31, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.