Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/George Richter

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. -- Cirt (talk) 00:28, 25 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

George Richter[edit]

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Unreferenced WP:BLP of a conductor. While I can find a number of CDs on Amazon which credit him, the only reliable source I can find is this book which describes him as "apocryphal". If this book is correct, then this article is a WP:HOAX and there is no such person. Pburka (talk) 03:18, 16 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This is a very interesting observation. I had a very hard time finding anything about him. Maybe this information could be aggregated into the article instead of the article being deleted? I didn't write it as a hoax. — fnielsen (talk) 08:32, 16 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't mean to imply that you had intentionally added false information. I assumed that it was written in good faith. I don't think you took it the wrong way, but if so I do apologize. Pburka (talk) 22:45, 16 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I wasn't able to find anything other than the source indicating the subject doesn't exist (though [1] says something similar). This isn't the creator's fault, rather whoever produced the recording decided to credit to a fake conductor and a different orchestra. If the subject does exist then he fails WP:BIO and the article should be deleted on notability grounds. Hut 8.5 08:45, 16 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I have now tried to add the information from Jonathan Brown. — fnielsen (talk) 09:00, 16 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

An article documenting how this conductor doesn't exist still doesn't pass the notability guidelines because the Brown source doesn't constitute significant coverage. Hut 8.5 09:07, 16 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I suppose that the information could be included in Heinrich Hollreiser, although it is not clear whether all "George Richter" attributions are Heinrich Hollreiser? — fnielsen (talk) 21:31, 16 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

One solution to George Richter could be to construct an article called fictional composer or fictitious composer and move the information about "him" as a part of the article. There is a "fictional musicians" category. — fnielsen (talk) 22:51, 22 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. — • Gene93k (talk) 16:20, 16 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:02, 23 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Delete, but only because I can't locate sufficient reliable sources for this fictitious individual. There's no problem with having an article about a fictitious person - my personal hero Jakob Maria Mierscheid MdB is a case in point - but notability is as important here as with any other article. I don't see enough reliable sourcing here to be certain that this fictitious person is notable, and unfortunately the name Richter is too common for Google to be of much use, or at least I'm not finding much in the way of reliable sources through it. --NellieBly (talk) 06:08, 23 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.