Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Geoffrey Eggleston

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. John254 17:00, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Geoffrey Eggleston

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Unable to find any significant coverage of this recently deceased poet. The lack of an obituary in a major Australian newspaper--while not dispositive--is a pretty good indication of a lack of notability.. Bongomatic 14:45, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Poetry-related deletion discussions. -- Fvasconcellos (t·c) 15:43, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
• Weak keep. Biography in AustLit (subscribers only): [1]. A brief mention here. JulesH (talk) 15:52, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

A bibliograph does not constitute "significant coverage". Bongomatic 02:07, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

• Weak keep Keep - I created the page believing notability could be established, but have found it hard to find verifiable sources to establish notability. 6 mentions in google books results. Mentioned in Small Press Publishing in Australia: The Early 1970's (Second Back Row Press, 1979) Possibility would be to fold this article into one on the long-running Montsalvat poetry festival, which surely is notable, and then make the Eggleston page a redirect. Stumps (talk) 22:52, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

The mentions located in Google Books are all passing references--not a single one could be considered to be "non-trival" (let alone "significant") coverage.

If the Montsalvat poetry festival is notable (long-running doesn't demonstrate that it is), a redirect would seem reasonable. But in the meantime, since there is no notability established, this article should be deleted. Bongomatic 02:07, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

I've upgraded to 'Keep' as I've now found that the Australian Defence Force Academy library has a couple of boxes of Eggleston manuscript materials - reference added to article. If a university keeps an archive of his material I'd say that does support a claim of notability. Stumps (talk) 07:44, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Actually, it doesn't. Papers frequently end up archived due to bequests of the author or his/her survivors. Institutions are generally obligated to abide by the terms of the bequest in perpetuity. Bongomatic 07:48, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Not a bequest ... Library index record last updated 2003/11/06 ... date of death 2 Dec 2008. Stumps (talk) 08:51, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. —Grahame (talk) 00:50, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
• I'd probably lean towards a weak keep. I am partial to the ultimate standard of whether the article makes the encyclopedia better or not, so I guess that makes me something of an inclusionist. It's not promotional, advertorial, difficult to maintain, controversial, and its accuracy isn't disputed, so I think it's okay to include it. The individual is not especially notable, but I did see a small number of mentions on google books, so he has some notoriety it would seem. That's my 2 cents. Thanks for thinking of me. (Reposted from a talk page)ChildofMidnight (talk) 02:13, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
• Weak Keep - If the other sources mentioned are added to the article, if more references are not added, however, I would recommend deletion. So I guess my vote will change if more references are not added, as one book does not constitute extensive coverage. Like CoM, I think the encyclopedia could use this information, but policies must be adhered to. Scapler (talk) 02:35, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
• Week keep The sources I have seen so far suggest that Eggleston is notable for his writing as well as his work in the performance poet. Editors may however require some time (and library trips!) to properly document this; recommend they check out La Mama Poetica, which is an anthology of poetry by performance poets including Eggleston and may contain some more biographical information. Abecedare (talk) 03:37, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

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