Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Garmsir incident

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The result was no consensus. (Non-administrator closure.) Northamerica1000^(talk) 09:10, 31 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Garmsir incident[edit]

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fails WP:EVENT. also as per WP:LASTING, and WP:PERSISTENCE. all the sources in article from January 2010. LibStar (talk) 02:17, 23 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Afghanistan-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000^(talk) 02:54, 23 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000^(talk) 02:54, 23 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of News-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000^(talk) 02:54, 23 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Military and combat-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000^(talk) 02:55, 23 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, it is a notable subject reliably sourced. I've no doubt people will be coming to Wikipedia for years wanting to know our take on the Koran burning story. If we delete this then they are liable to go to POV sources that will either say it definitely did or did not happen. Then there's the issue that several people died in this, that makes it noteworthy. We need to be conscious of our institutional bias in such things, on the few occasions when several people have died in a shooting in Europe in this century it is unquestionably notable Ϣere SpielChequers 09:07, 23 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

people dying does not mean automatic WP article. There is no POV if it doesn't appear in Wikipedia. There are 1000s of shootings and murders that do not get a Wikipedia article every year. LibStar (talk) 15:56, 24 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

There are tens of thousands of shootings and murders in the US alone every year and yes the vast majority are not notable. But this is clearly different and unusual - several dead rather than the typical one dead in a shooting, and killed by security forces rather than by criminals. Now if you could demonstrate that there were vast numbers of similar incidents per year and that this sort of thing was routine then there might be a case for deletion. Or rather the press might not have given it the coverage needed to pass the wp:GNG. Ϣere SpielChequers 04:03, 26 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - far from being routine news. No benefit to our readers or the encyclopedia in deleting a meaningful article supported by multiple reliable sources.--cyclopia ^speak! 20:06, 24 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

all the sources are from January 2010, suggesting a news spike. LibStar (talk) 07:30, 25 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Sufficiently high profile to meet the requirements of the notability guidelines. DavidLeighEllis (talk) 23:40, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. No indication of lasting significance. --BDD (talk) 21:32, 30 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.