Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gamers' Choice Awards

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep, after extended time for discussion. "Keep" arguments align with the pertinent guideline, WP:RPRGM, which states: "an individual radio or television program is likely to be notable if it airs on a network of radio or television stations (either national or regional in scope)", and "the presence or absence of reliable sources is more definitive than the geographic range of the program's audience alone". The guideline specifically notes that a single broadcast of a failed pilot episode can be notable if discussed in reliable sources. Whatever else this may be, it is that. BD2412 T 00:04, 5 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Gamers' Choice Awards[edit]

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One-off award show whose only claim to fame seems to be that it caused a lawsuit between its creators[1]? While widely reported on, it appears that the vast majority of sources, other than the Variety one, are churnalistic re-reporting of press releases. Is the Variety article enough to establish notability? I'm of the opinion that it does not. Axem Titanium (talk) 04:43, 22 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Games-related deletion discussions. Axem Titanium (talk) 04:43, 22 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. Axem Titanium (talk) 04:43, 22 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep It is probably the fact that there was legal action that made the show notable. Obviously I can't use court documents but I can tell right now that the case appears to have been dismissed though there's still issues over attorney's fees and the like. While the awards themselves are churned from press releases, that's usually the same on most other award ceremony lists, but the fact they cover them and decouple the press release format for their own articles show they have some care to the matter. --Masem (t) 05:04, 22 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The lawsuit is 100% not over. Burg has been intentionally using any available means to delay it to avoid having to produce any discovery, hoping he will be able to wait it out. He has claimed sickness, travel, basically anything imaginable. A trial date was scheduled to be issued on 3/22 but this was delayed due to the coronavirus situation, a trial date will be announced in June 2020. JupiterReturn (talk) 17:05, 22 May 2020 (UTC)JupiterReturn[reply]

Keep - This has been a constant NPOV sounding board for the above user who has gone as far to accuse me of being Berg since they cannot use Wikipedia to WP:RGW. The show received in-depth coverage and aired on CBS as a nationally televised award show. It meets WP:GNG. --CNMall41 (talk) 07:13, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 00:48, 29 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete All of the claims within this article hide that the only reason this had a network television timeslot at all was that it used brokered programming time (read the related article CBS Sports Spectacular, which usually follows CBS's NFL games when they don't have a doubleheader game weekend and is a time-buy slot most weeks), rather than the merits of the ceremony itself, to get on TV, which is usually a broad disqualifier for an article here. CBS not only just collected money from the organizers of this ceremony and sold them time (thus why west of the Rockies it aired wherever an otherwise indifferent CBS affiliate could fit it in), but they offered no basic editorial input on the ceremony because the organizer, outside of making sure it met CBS's standards and practices (here 'don't swear, do FCC-license threatening things, or show nudity'), was completely responsible for how it turned out. It's the equivalent of an infomercial, and besides the poor organization and overall show, it doesn't have much WP:N for the actual awards itself. It didn't have a 2019 ceremony. Outside an entry in Video game award, this doesn't justify its article link and can be compressed easily into a smaller paragraph there. Nate • (chatter) 08:54, 29 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: How can anyone know if an awards program is brokered programming or not? Unless we have an interview with someone involved stating this or it's something that was discussed in third party sources about the show, it's not really something knowable about any TV show. --Prosperosity (talk) 12:37, 2 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Video games-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 10:38, 29 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 10:38, 29 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Even if it's not a recurring event, it's still a CBS special that received coverage at a bunch of different platforms. --Prosperosity (talk) 12:41, 2 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.