Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Future of Freedom Foundation
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The result was Delete. Michig (talk) 08:15, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
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wp:promotion ap:aboutself Darkstar1st (talk) 08:45, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
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- Delete. Cannot see any notability for organisation itself: people who work for it maybe, but WP:NOTINHERITED. Its essentially a puff piece.TheLongTone (talk) 14:15, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
Probable keepI'm going to take a swing at sourcing this. Before I do, I want to make it clear that this foundation appears to represent a radical ideology, one in which inhaling extreme ideological purity appears to make participants lose touch with reality. Distasteful as some of the ideas espoused by this Foundation may be, if the organization exists and has a budget, a paid staff, it probably passes notability as an organization. And if it can be sourced, then it passes WP:GNG. No matter how distasteful or "fringe" some editors find it. Plus, frankly, I like to have 'em listed right here were folks can look 'em up and see what they stand for and who they stand with.E.M.Gregory (talk) 20:02, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
- commentThe 2nd paragraph of the lede states "The foundation communicates its message to the public by means of.... Op-Ed pieces published in more than 800 newspapers in the United States and Latin America." While I can't vouch for the #800, but a quick search turned up a very long list of newspapers - some major - that publish Hornberger's op-eds with FFF as his credential.E.M.Gregory (talk) 20:32, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
- Did a little sourcing. This outfit holds conferences, appears to have a budget,
I think it's a keeper.E.M.Gregory (talk) 21:05, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
- Did a little sourcing. This outfit holds conferences, appears to have a budget,
- commentThe 2nd paragraph of the lede states "The foundation communicates its message to the public by means of.... Op-Ed pieces published in more than 800 newspapers in the United States and Latin America." While I can't vouch for the #800, but a quick search turned up a very long list of newspapers - some major - that publish Hornberger's op-eds with FFF as his credential.E.M.Gregory (talk) 20:32, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
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weak delete reflecting on how little independent coverage I found, and the fact that overwhelmingly what comes up is the name as the organization in Hornberger's byline, the more inclined I am to think that it fails WP:ORGSIG.E.M.Gregory (talk) 18:18, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
- Delete Lacks significant coverage in reliable secondary sources. Fails WP:GNG & WP:ORG.--JayJasper (talk) 03:30, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
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