Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Freedom garden

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Tim Song (talk) 01:48, 23 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Freedom garden

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Article lacks any sources that prove this has any notability to get it's own article. I could see it becoming a section in the Victory Garden article, but I feel it has way too much COI as is. Author is using possibly self-published sources (wordpress). Funnyfarmofdoom (talk) 20:07, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Freedom Gardens Response

Freedom gardens are a separate idea from victory gardens, in that, they are not a direct marketing campaign to conserve national resources nor is the idea orchestrated by the government like victory gardens were in the First and Second World Wars. Freedom gardens are a means for individual citizens to protect themselves from inflation and possible food scarcities in the event of a national catastrophe; they are not needed as a direct result of the current wars being fought currently like victory gardens were. The only similarity is the fact that they are gardens in public and private plots not normally designated for such use. The actual act of planting and growing vegetables is similar, but the driving idea behind is fear of an internal unknown rather than fear of the external foreign factors.

Free Pinellas (talk) 05:48, 16 March 2010 (UTC)— Free Pinellas (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

Delete This is basically an essay - could also be described as a WP:coatrack for the Pinella project. The term finds some use on the web, but I could not find any WP:RS reliable sources to establish it. --MelanieN (talk) 04:13, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per lack of verifiability. The sources seem to be from Wikipedia itself. Dew Kane (talk) 04:33, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Freedom Gardens Response (Counterpoints)

The group is mentioned, in name or reference, minimally and the context does not promote the agenda of the group. I have established references where the term is used by other groups, but there is no origin from what I have found except through the original group agenda I have found and posted. These facts are not from wikipedia, that is why this page was created. The "victory gardens" reference was found through wikipedia, but is a separate and reliable source of 20th century victory gardens.

Comment There have been urban collective gardens for a long time, and people have grown food on their property for even longer. Community gardening and Urban agriculture already have articles on Wikipedia. Furthermore, your group's claim to have originated the movement and/or the term may not hold up to scrutiny. Other groups claim to have come up with the name "Freedom Garden" independently; see, for example, this which traces the origin to Pasadena, California. The book Food Not Lawns, promoting a similar idea, was written in 2006, before your group even formed. --MelanieN (talk) 14:43, 19 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment That is great. I was looking for something earlier than what I had. I have seen the website you referenced, but did not see any statement of a date of origin, which is what I was looking for. As for the book, I will mention it and the year you specified. I will also state that many groups claim originating the term. Also, the point of the article is not that people grow food on their property, but the reason. It is common knowledge that people have gardens and some are used for consumption, but the purpose of today's movement points to globally or politically motivated topics, such as: peak oil, commodity inflation, unsustainable consumption, or catastrophic events like war or famine. People are becoming more aware of the instabilty of the powers that exist and realize the first step is securing the homestead through self-sufficiency.

Free Pinellas (talk) 04:49, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Unfortunately, this concept does not have a lot of notability, and cannot be traced to any one particular developer. The Urban agriculture article contains most of the concept that is at this article. --Fiftytwo thirty (talk) 15:22, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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