Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Free Beer & Hot Wings Morning Show

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was del `'mikka 17:11, 13 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Free Beer & Hot Wings Morning Show

A morning radio show with no claim of notability, no ratings listed and no independent references killing sparrows 05:58, 8 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have added the following related page as it is the only one in the below category not currently under AfD;

Comment from nominator. There is also a category 'Free Beer & Hot Wings Morning Show' that should be deleted but I don't know how to nominate that.--killing sparrows 06:02, 8 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Response. That goes on WP:CFD. I'll see if I can take care of it. YechielMan 07:30, 8 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Follow-up After checking the guidelines, I realize that it doesn't make sense to delete the category so long as the category contains some articles. I recommend that all the articles in the category be deleted, and then the category itself can be speedied. The closing admin should take note of this. YechielMan 07:36, 8 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Note the related AFD on Eric Zane. YechielMan 07:30, 8 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete this is the third or so in a number of related articles that need to be deleted.--Joebengo 18:12, 8 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as lacking any sources to show notability.-- danntm ^T _C 23:19, 8 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Lacks notability. --Master pedia 04:38, 9 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The show is syndicated in 9 different states. They interview top line celebs such as Jeff Goldblum, Billy Bob Thorton, Dick Vitale, and many others. This is way more notable than most of the morning shows you have here. The glssary is a side article from the main page. The only source you can really go by is the official site. Assassin Haiku 12:43, 9 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Which means it hasn't any secondary sources. Oh, and contacting users about the AfD who would have a predetermined POV (such as this to User:Ericzane is canvassing (if not votestacking). EliminatorJR ^Talk 19:01, 9 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  - comment Assassin Haiku has also contacted at least 4 other users 'notifying them' about the AfD. Nice try, no cookie.--killing sparrows 19:57, 9 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The show is your typical morning show garbage with the same predictable pattern of guests and inane banter. I knew nothing about the show until this morning when driving through Nashville. I wanted to know who greenlighted this sludge and found it on Wikipedia. If not for Wikipedia's entry, all I would have read was the slanted nature of their own website instead of the Wiki's neutral coverage. There should be more information, like reviews and ratings though. I'll see what I can find.
- Comment Above unsigned !vote is from single edit (this one) IP :)--killing sparrows 19:49, 9 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Evedently not an arguement from a fan, however it is a valad point considering the primary goal of wiki is to provide information to those who seek it on a topic they would come across. Assassin Haiku 15:59, 9 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
deleteGman124 22:57, 9 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
comment Well first of all I was not aware of any type of rule infringement in notifying people who have previously worked on an article of thier interest to give them a fair say in the topic they put time in on. I thought that would only be fare for anyone who belives in what the wrote. secondly if this comment "Above unsigned !vote is from single edit (this one) IP :)--killing sparrows 19:49, 9 April 2007 (UTC)" is supposed to insinuate that it was me who wrote that you are completley wrong. I mean yeah I think this is an article worth keeping on here because I have been a fan of the show since they were only on one station, but this would not be worth pulling a stupid stunt like that. If I could prove it to you I would but there is no way unless you would like to try to ask the people who run this site. And lastly if you feel that passionate about getting rid of something that others take enjoyment in then go ahead there is more to life to me than this entry. I have had one entry of mine taken out of here and it was for just cause, I did not know the rules. I personally feel this whole rampage to get this deleted is senseless especally considering the fact that this has been up for almost a full year and there was no problem up until now. In general this whole thing kind of kills the whole Wiki experience for anyone who has dedicated time in writing something about what they and others deem as worth spending time on. So whatever will happen will just happen. Assassin Haiku 23:47, 9 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
comment I would also like to add in defense of myself after reading on canvasing. What i did was no where near votesacking, and more along the lines of friendly notice. The people I posted to had not voted before because there was never a vote on this topic before. I apologise for the defensive put out yesterday but there were what I felt like a lot of accusations in my direction. I do not like being accused of things especally when you try to make me look even worse by stating I would do something like votesacking. Assassin Haiku 14:17, 10 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I said it was canvassing and possibly votestacking ("Don't attempt to sway consensus by encouraging participation in a discussion by people that you already know have a certain point of view." from WP:CANVASS) and I stand by that - if an article passes Wikipedia guidelines it won't be deleted and therefore shouldn't need other people to come and "defend" it. EliminatorJR ^Talk 14:26, 10 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

- CommentI understand that, the way you stated I was doing so it made it seem like I was doing something against the rules when it states a friendly notice is acceptable. If the guidelines are all it takes to go about deletion and not a concern of what is written in here and had I known it I would not have even contacted anyone dealing with it.Assassin Haiku 23:10, 10 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Provides a NPOV on the show with much more information than the official site provides. Helps new listeners figure out what it is all about. Show itself is a source of information, including the podcast (subscription only). Does need more sources, including ratings. Keep it and allow users to add information from more sources. The glossary should go, though. 216.120.133.202 20:48, 12 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep It's a good show. People need to know about it. They have solutions for world peace. It needs to be syndicated in Iran/Iraq/and the United Arab Emirates.
Delete nn. Mukadderat 17:03, 13 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Article provides a nice background of the show. With new affiliates being added all the time, it helps new listeners of the show get an idea of what they are all about. Jerome12 17:04, 16 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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