Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Franklin Canyon, California

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The result was delete. czar 06:39, 8 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Franklin Canyon, California

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Not a community, it is literally a canyon. Even GNIS calls it a canyon. Durham's Place-Names of the San Francisco Bay Area calls it a canyon. Gudde calls it a canyon. It is only notable as the setting for the Vicente Martinez Adobe. This fact is captured in the related article. Glendoremus (talk) 16:26, 10 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Update - article has been edited to correctly identify it as a canyon and not a community. Glendoremus (talk) 19:49, 10 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. Lightburst (talk) 17:27, 10 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Lightburst (talk) 17:27, 10 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

comment The notability of the canyon itself is borderline: there are numerous references to it, but I cannot find much that talks about the canyon in its own right at any much length. It does encompass not only the John Muir Site, but also a substantial public park and a wilderness area held by the John Muir Land Trust. Both of these sites talk about the canyon, a little. I'm still not quite convinced that an article needs to exist, but the current "unincorporated community" claim is baldly wrong and was put there because someone was careless and made a bad assumption when updating the article to actually say what Franklin Canyon is. Mangoe (talk) 18:03, 10 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The park is actually a different Franklin Canyon in Beverly Hills. –dlthewave ☎ 18:22, 10 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Aha. I do see that the wilderness area is in the area, though quite a ways to the west. For now I'm leaning delete. Mangoe (talk) 02:39, 11 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, DMySon 04:44, 18 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, - Flori4nK ^{t • c} 15:31, 25 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep John Muir Land Trust describe it as one their most important projects with many significant features. Andrew🐉(talk) 16:08, 25 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 02:35, 1 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I waited a pretty long time for someone to post the sources this needs to be notable so I could vote keep, but it never happened. So, delete it is. --Adamant1 (talk) 03:20, 1 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Local conservation group has protected a number of local properties, but there doesn't appear to be notability in every landform; perhaps mergable to Martinez, CA or Glen Frazer, California. Reywas92^Talk 03:54, 1 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete There are plenty of geographical features without Wikipedia articles that are more notable than Franklin Canyon. However, most of them don't meet notability guidelines either. It doesn't make sense to keep this article. Scorpions13256 (talk) 05:57, 1 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete nothing inherently notable in being a hole in the ground. ——Serial 16:18, 5 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.