Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Frankfurt School conspiracy theory

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The result was keep. postdlf (talk) 00:51, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Frankfurt School conspiracy theory

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This article appears to be a WP:CONTENTFORK from Cultural Marxism.[1] The major flaw in the article is that it defines the "conspiracy theory" as one where the Frankfurt School of critical theorists advanced a version of Marxism known as "Cultural Marxism" which had an agenda of subverting traditional Western values. However, the article goes on to name a wide array of groups as promulgators of the theory, some of which attacked the Frankfurt School without mentioning "Cultural Marxism," and some of which attacked "Cultural Marxism" without mentioning the Frankfurt School. If the article were to be freed, therefore, from OR, it would be reduced to stub size, but I think that the most appropriate course of action would simply be deletion. It's a conspiracy theory about a conspiracy theory. Joe Bodacious (talk) 14:10, 21 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2013 July 21. Snotbot t • c » 14:28, 21 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep This isn't a fork but rather a fringe theory which has enough reliable sources to merit an article, and the article is in accordance with fringe rules. I just recently came across a Christian Apologetic book which dedicated an entire chapter to the Frankfurt School which effectively utilized this theory, so I don't think that it is WP:OR or conjecture especially with the number of secondary sources that are cited analyzing the conspiracy theory. To clear up the nominators confusion about the use of terms, Cultural Marxism is the cultural theory advanced by the Frankfurt school, so having a group mention one or the other as part of the conspiracy theory isn't a problem. The usage appears to be mentioning the "frankfurt school" when talking about the individuals, and saying "cultural marxism" when talking about the ideology. Cheers! Coffeepusher (talk) 14:38, 21 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

At present, the article Frankfurt School contains no reference to "cultural Marxism." Joe Bodacious (talk) 15:59, 21 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

it actually contains one reference, and the Cultural Marxism article states that cultural marxism is an offshoot of the Frankfurt school's critical theory.Coffeepusher (talk) 16:01, 21 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Conspiracy theories-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:45, 21 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:45, 21 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Notable crackpottery is still notable. -- cyclopia^speak! 15:52, 25 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Michaelzeng7 (talk) 02:47, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Passes GNG from footnotes showing. Very nice page on a far right conspiracy theory. Should not be merged to Frankfurt School piece (a recipe for undue weight problems and a content war). Carrite (talk) 04:20, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
'Keep very interesting well sourced article and not the same topic as Cultural Marxism so no basis for claim of fork.User:Maunus ·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 16:53, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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