Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Frank Hammond

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The result was no consensus. L Faraone 01:11, 12 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Frank Hammond[edit]

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Non-notable author, unless we take the unsourced assertions of his publisher as Gospel. Orange Mike | Talk 23:46, 20 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Strong keep. I certainly don't agree with the man, but he and his ideas get substantial coverage in books such as:

Michael Cuneo, American Exorcism, Random House, 2010.
Gregory L. Reece, Creatures of the Night: In Search of Ghosts, Vampires, Werewolves and Demons, I.B.Tauris, 2012.
Kenneth D. Boa and Robert M. Bowman, Jr., Sense and Nonsense about Angels and Demons, Zondervan, 2007.
Harvey Cox, Fire From Heaven: The Rise Of Pentecostal Spirituality And The Reshaping Of Religion In The 21st Century, Da Capo Press, 2001.
Thomas J. Csordas, The Sacred Self: A Cultural Phenomenology of Charismatic Healing, University of California Press, 1997.

Hammond's writings had a very strong influence on the Catholic Charismatic Renewal, as well as on Protestant "Deliverance ministry" ideas (both in the US and internationally), and this is documented in books such as those listed (all of which are neutral or critical; there are also hundreds of sources from inside the "Deliverance ministry" movement, and several Google Scholar hits in journals on religion and mental health). I think there has been a very clear failure of WP:BEFORE here. -- 202.124.73.12 (talk) 10:59, 23 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep as per the surprising number of hits in google books that do actually appear to be more than passing mentions. It all seems a little bizarre to me, but there does appear to be coverage. Stuartyeates (talk) 09:20, 27 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 18:56, 27 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 20:34, 4 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I can't find substantial coverage in reliable independent sources. Mentions in selfpublished books notwithstanding. Candleabracadabra (talk) 22:01, 7 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The books listed above are published by Random House, I. B. Tauris, Zondervan, Da Capo Press and University of California Press. Hardly self-published. Phil Bridger (talk) 22:19, 7 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A valid point, but I don't think mentions in some books constitutes notability. Can you provide any sources where there is substantial coverage? I would be happy to reconsider my viewpoint. Candleabracadabra (talk) 22:35, 7 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The first two, at least, of the books listed above by 202.124.73.12 have substanial coverage of Hammond's work. Phil Bridger (talk) 08:19, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

And there's a 3rd party source (Cuneo, cited above) for one of Hammond's books selling over 1,000,000 copies. -- 202.124.89.10 (talk) 03:05, 9 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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