Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Frances Bean Cobain (4th nomination)

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The result was snow keep; there is absolutely no prospect of this article being deleted on the grounds of non-notability, and absolutely nothing to be gained by keeping this discussion open any longer. So I withdraw this nomination as there is no prospect of the article been erased (Ruth-2013 (talk) 19:04, 30 September 2011 (UTC)) (Non-Admin Closure)[reply]

Frances Bean Cobain[edit]

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Non notable. Only notable for being the daughter of Kurt Cobain and Courtney Love; in which case, violates WP:NOTABLE, which states that relationships do not transfer notability. I suggest redirect to Kurt Cobain. Ruth-2013 (talk) 10:56, 29 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

*Speedy Keep for exactly the same reasons as the other three times it has been nominated.Tigerboy1966 (talk) 12:17, 29 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Perhaps with speed. The nominator should try to follow WP:BEFORE in the future, there are plenty of articles establishing her notability, such as this and this, for example. Mark Arsten (talk) 14:49, 29 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy keep per previous AfDs and extensive sourcing already present in article. Lots of articles in Wikipedia are appropriate for AfD review; this isn't one of them.--Arxiloxos (talk) 14:55, 29 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. In spite of the occasional contrary decision, like on the Marcus Bachmann article which had a lot of politics involved, we generally recognize that while someone may receive coverage for being related to a notable person, it's still coverage that satisfies GNG/BIO. NOTINHERITED means that someone isn't notable just for being related to someone else, not that we second-guess reliable sources and decide that they were wrong to cover someone. –Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 16:04, 29 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. — — alf.laylah.wa.laylah (talk) 21:05, 29 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy Keep. No, she wouldn't have become notable if she weren't her parent's child. That doesn't change the fact that there's more than enough coverage centered on her to meet the GNG's requirements. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 21:57, 29 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy Keep. This is getting ridiculous. Binarybits (talk) 22:44, 29 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Merge - to Kurt Cobain. She is talked about because of her famous parents, nothing more. Every scrip and scrap of coverage of her is because she has famous parents, there is not a single thing on her own merit that is independently notable. Magazine internships, an art show under a pseudonym and a modeling gig don't cut it. Compare to Al Gore III' much news coverage for otherwise minor incidents, magnified by the fact of her last name. Tarc (talk) 22:54, 29 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy Keep. Ditto with above points. --EPadmirateur (talk) 02:24, 30 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Completly notable in her own right. Lugnuts (talk) 06:56, 30 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment She is NOT notable and ALL PRESS COVERAGE comes from association of her to her mam and dad. By the logic thats been displayed here in that case it looks like we need an article for Kurt Cobain's mam,dad,aunts,uncles,any brothers or sisters, and grandperants. If people come notable by association that is. She is clearly not notable and not accomplished anything in HER OWN RIGHT YET(Ruth-2013 (talk) 07:59, 30 September 2011 (UTC))[reply]

Comment I can understand your feelings Ruth. My gut feeling was the same, but regardless of where the coverage comes from, she has received significant attention in her own right. WP has to reflect the world, even when the world chooses to lavish attention on individuals who would have been ignored but for their family origins. Prince Harry, anyone?Tigerboy1966 (talk) 09:53, 30 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.