Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fire and Ice (board game)

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The result was delete. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:19, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Fire and Ice (board game)

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I was unable to find much RS on Google, News, Scholar, Books, and BGG besides a single ref that might not be reliable, and IMO it doesn't meet GNG. VickKiang (talk) 07:38, 19 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Games-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 08:51, 19 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Nothing in the article suggests this game is notable. BEFORE only gave me few mentions in passing, complicated by the fact that the term is used in various contexts, including as a name or partial name of several other games.--_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 09:23, 20 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: BBG says that it was a 2003 Mensa Select award winner: [1] BOZ (talk) 11:03, 20 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@BOZ: Should the award be considered a ref to count towards GNG? It’s just borderline notable to have its own WP article, and Mensa is very well known, but each year there’s multiple winners? I’m not sure if it’s major enough to count towards one ref GNG, is there any article from Mensa mentioning this game? VickKiang (talk) 21:55, 20 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Related current discussion: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Board_and_table_games/Sources#Notable_Games_Awards. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 09:31, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 11:29, 26 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Based on the discussion on awards, I suppose the award counts as one ref for WP:GNG. But 2+ is needed (even at 2 it's very borderline), so still strongly support Delete. VickKiang (talk) 04:53, 30 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.