Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fippy Darkpaw

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Delete. nn character Madchester 03:40, 20 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fippy Darkpaw

nn character in online game. Alternatively merge to EverQuest Hirudo 22:40, 15 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, real character in notable online game. Do not merge with EverQuest, please, think of the users. Kappa 22:49, 15 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- In that case, merge and redirect. Having an article for each minor character in every notable game is very much overkill imo. Hirudo 23:27, 15 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  - Stuffing every game article full of minor characters is overkill on any user with dialup. Kappa 23:45, 15 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I'm confused. If this is a 'minor' character, is the character notable enough to warrant their own article? I think merging this in seems a good idea, regardless of dialup users. If the EQ article gets too long then maybe split ALL the NPCs out as one article? I'm just not seeing why merge is a bad idea. Thanks! ++Lar: t/c 23:50, 15 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- I think we should put real users ahead of random page users. Merging to a split out page wouldn't hurt though. Kappa 00:08, 16 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as not encyclopedic, and original research. Last I ckecked, Wikipedia was not indiscriminate collection of information. Once everything lacking WP:CITE is removed, there'd be nothing left. - brenneman^(t)^(c) 00:01, 16 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- How is it not encyclopedic? An Everquest encylopedia wouldn't be complete without it. Also the source would appear to be the game Everquest, which is a lot more accessible than most books. Kappa 00:08, 16 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  - An Everquest encyclopedia? That's not what I'm giving away my free time to create. And the source of this information isn't the game, it's the author's observations on the game. That's pure original research. I'd not mind recreation as a redirect to everquest per Obina following the deletion. - brenneman^(t)^(c) 01:00, 16 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    - You don't have to give up your time to create it, but if would be nice if you would stop using your time to destroy it. Kappa 01:03, 16 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
      - Every nonsense page is another page that I'll have to watch in RC, another slight drain on the CPU that slows users' acces of real information, another bit of disc space that the foundation has to spend money on. With that, I'll leave this AfD discussion. - brenneman ^(t)^(c) 01:31, 16 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
        If people aren't using it, it has nothing but a neglible cost of storage. If people are using it, they are getting more value from wikipedia and are more likely contribute their own time, money and real information. Destroying these things and driving people out of the project is no way to promote a healthy, growing community. Kappa 01:41, 16 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- I agree that it should go, but I disagree that it's anything remotely like original research. There's nothing in the article that isn't in the game itself, or any number of game guides, including the official published ones. WP:NOR is supposed to protect us from crackpot scientific musings and quack medical theory, not video game monsters! Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 16:42, 16 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
DeleteNon notable character. Of course it gets lots of hits. Everquest is a widely played game, and there are databases and websites galore tracking all the information. Everquest has many thousands of NPC (Non player character) with many indeed more notable than this guy err dog. Thinking of the users, it will be helpful if their searches do not bring them here but rather to a site with lots of information. This a slipperly slope of a very steep kind. The number of EQ articles (and DAoC, EQII, etc) will be large, 'Dwarf'ing Star Trek, and be a Ogre of a task. Makes me want to yell "Train" (inside joke).Obina 00:15, 16 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- I too can see the sense in creating a Everquest characters page for a brief entry on NPC's like Fippy. This, plus the redirects will prevent us having the debate 500 times more.Obina 00:47, 16 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per brenneman. This isn't an Everquest encyclopedia. -- Krash 00:48, 16 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nomination, but would support a merge and redirect to a combined list of NPCs if there was an overwhelming consensus. -- Saberwyn - The Zoids Expansion Project 01:26, 16 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom and per user:Aaron Brenneman, but support merge/redirect ++Lar: t/c 01:36, 16 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I'm very inclusionist when it comes to fictional/game characters, but this should go. Unless I'm remembering wrong, it isn't an NPC (non-player-character), but a named mob (basically a slightly more-powerful monster with a name). There isn't a way to interact with it, you just either kill it or avoid it. Trying to cover every single named creature in a huge and ever-expanding game like Everquest is beyond the reasonable scope of an encylcopedia. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 16:36, 16 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Everquest has hundreds of named monsters who are not characters but simply one-off enemies players must defeat. (Open that up to include games like World of Warcraft and EQ2 and the other MMOs...ow, my head hurts). This character has no personality, and is of little interest to anyone who hasn't killed him already (and already knows all of the meager info in this article). Wikipedia will not be hurt by the deletion of this article, and, most tellingly, it's of no interest to anyone who doesn't already know everything here. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 02:17, 17 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- I thought it was interesting. Kappa 23:36, 19 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Merge into Everquest --TimPope 22:53, 17 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per AMIB. Barno 23:01, 17 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom Incognito 05:37, 18 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, per Kappa. Character from popular online game played by tonnes of people. Would be difficult to merge to everquest as the article is already large. Englishrose 23:22, 19 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.