Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Final game at Yankee Stadium

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge and redirect into Yankee Stadium (1923). There's nothing in the article but the line score and three footer templates, and there are no regular season game line scores in 2008 New York Yankees season, so the old Yankee Stadium article seems the best place. I'll leave it to editors to discuss if they actually want that line score in the article or not. - Krakatoa Katie 22:14, 11 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Final game at Yankee Stadium

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The final game of Yankee Stadium isn't notable enough for its own article. Mentions of Jeter's speech are appropriate at the Yankee Stadium page, and perhaps his own. Muboshgu (talk) 02:10, 30 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Baseball-related deletion discussions. —Muboshgu (talk) 02:13, 30 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge to 2008 New York Yankees season. All the relevant information can easily be incorporated into that article. Spanneraol (talk) 02:50, 30 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per Spanner's comments. Could also be merged to the article on the actual stadium. The game itself is not notable. The Stadium and the season in which the game was played are. ɠǀɳ̩ςεΝɡbomb 03:22, 30 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The final game at Tiger Stadium was notable enough for its own article. If we delete this article, we should delete that one too. The final game at Yankee Stadium is well-known. 173.26.237.244 (talk) 03:25, 30 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

See also: WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS. And I disagree that the final game is well-known. The game itself is not well-known and there's no evidence of the game's lasting notability. That it was the final game at Yankee Stadium is well-known, and Yankee Stadium clearly has lasting notability. That's a key distinction, in my opinion. What's notable, in this case, is Yankee Stadium, not the game itself. ɠǀɳ̩ςεΝɡbomb 03:37, 30 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What makes this game notable is that it's the final game at the Stadium, especially given that it was the last event at a historic place that's been around for 85 years. The fact that it's the very last game should make it inherently notable. 173.26.237.244 (talk) 03:41, 30 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think we'll end up talking ourselves in circles if we keep chatting on this point. I can agree to disagree on this. My argument is essentially that the game itself doesn't inherit notability from the stadium's closing, whereas you think it does. Will be interesting to see how this AfD turns out! Cheers. ɠǀɳ̩ςεΝɡbomb 03:57, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete More fancruft from Yankee fans who feel that every single thing that happens to the team is notable. Kinston eagle (talk) 11:35, 2 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What's with the unnecessary Yankee hate? I am a Yankee fan and I AfD'd this page once I found it. There's one for the Detroit Tigers too, so it's not just a Yankee thing. --Muboshgu (talk) 14:20, 2 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per Spanneraol. -Dewelar (talk) 16:30, 4 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. While Yankee Stadium itself is certainly a notable subject, the final game is not. If the final game were of importance to the season in which it were played (such as a playoff or World Series contest), I might be able to agree that the game itself was notable. But, just as Game #162 on the Yankees' schedule that season, it doesn't pass muster. If this article is allowed to stay, what is to prevent an editor from creating Final game at Jarry Park and claiming that it, too, deserves its own article? Strikerforce (talk) 06:00, 5 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and expand, to match the article on the Toiger stadium game, which is a model of what this article should be. No need to delete it in the meanwhile, though. DGG ( talk ) 05:38, 7 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep' - Whether its notable enough for its own article is subject to debate, but its a notable event that we should cover.--Milowent • ^talkblp-r 17:59, 8 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The season article already contains more information about this event than this article does. Spanneraol (talk) 18:07, 8 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not opposed to a redirect if it makes editorial sense.--Milowent • ^talkblp-r 21:09, 8 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: it is unclear from these comments why the last game played at a stadium is less notable then other rare events. For example, in baseball there is a Category:MLB perfect games, which has articles on several of the 20 perfect games in the history of U.S. professional baseball. Also in baseball is Category:Lists of no-hitters by franchise. In American college football, over three dozen 2010–11 NCAA football bowl games, including the 2011 TicketCity Bowl, merit articles. Games such as The Epic in Miami, the Music City Miracle, the Tuck rule game, and a 1988 game called the Fog Bowl are considered notable. 72.244.204.30 (talk) 15:41, 9 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well for one thing, it's not all that rare.. if you were to write an article about the last game played at every stadium in the history of baseball then you would have scores of articles... this one may be more current but that doesnt mean it should get more notice than a mention on the season page. Spanneraol (talk) 15:45, 9 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Stadiums are used for decades, making the last game at one seem pretty rare. Per WP:RECENTISM it isn't surprising that this article popped up before the one for Sportsman's Park. I'm not saying the topic can't be covered in a season or stadium article, but I question the requirement to do so when individual articles are created for the most trivial of college football post-season bowl games. 72.244.204.30 (talk) 16:09, 9 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The college bowl games are post-season games, which usually are deserving of articles... the final game at Sportsman's Park for instance is completely trivial.. does anyone even remember what happened in that game? Does anyone really care? What about the final game at South End Grounds? Or the final game at Boundary Field? These trivial events should really be covered on the stadium pages or the season pages... wring a whole article about them makes no sense. Spanneraol (talk) 17:33, 9 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to 2008 New York Yankees season or delete. The idea that the last game or the first game at any stadium, even the famous Yankee Stadium, merits its own article, isn't supported by any policy. This boxscore can be put in the season article. Redirect is suggested only because it's a logical search term. Mandsford 21:31, 10 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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