Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fictional weapons of Dungeons & Dragons

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete unless someone interested in using this information wants to make a more general article that can establish notability as mentioned below. If that is the case, I'll userfy, and then restore as a redirect when the article is ready. — Deckill er 03:30, 12 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fictional weapons of Dungeons & Dragons[edit]

Google (predictably) reports only d20 sources for those. Falls entirely outside the scope of notability, and pretty much just indiscriminate fictional info. — Coren ^(talk) 17:10, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. eaolson 17:12, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. The reason I created these articles is because a friend of mine went looking for information about various weapons that are used in the D&D setting (bastard sword, etc.) and complained that certain ones had no information about them. The reason there was no information about them was because they weren't historical weapons. So I figure it's important to have something to at least establish that fact. Bryan Derksen 17:19, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment, perhaps redirects from the names of fictional weapons to general d20 articles would be better? I'm not familiar with d20 (and D&D) coverage on the Wikipedia, but I'm sure there are encyclopedic articles that would be a good destination. — Coren ^(talk) 17:25, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  - I had a look for an existing article that would be a suitable merge target in Category:Dungeons & Dragons but didn't see any that looked appropriate, there's lots of stuff on spells and magic but nothing on the more mundane objects and equipment commonly found in the sourcebooks. If you can find a good one I overlooked I wouldn't be opposed to more merging. Bryan Derksen 17:33, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- ... on second look, I can't seem to find a reasonable article to redirect to. "Fictional weapons of D&D" almost certainly cannot be made into an encyclopedic article, but what about combat in D&D as a topic, or simulated RPG combat? This could tie in nicely to LARPs (which also have coverage) and I'm pretty sure we can find at least some coverage of the concepts in non-d20 sources. A section on fictional mundane weapons would fit nicely in there. — Coren ^(talk) 17:30, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  - I'd be fine with that too. Bryan Derksen 17:33, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per wikipedia is NOT a gameguide in WP:NOT Corpx 19:30, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Marginal delete Well, the fact that D&D and D20 are sufficient on their own to justify their articles may be interpreted to include covering this material. But the problem is this a rather minor aspect of the game. The best I could suggest would be dropping the fiction part and adding the other weapons in the setting. But I think people would still be validly concerned about the concept of that article. It might well be too much specific detail. FrozenPurpleCube 20:40, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete No secondary sources to establish notability. Jay32183 01:42, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom, per Corpx, and per WP:FICT. If there's anything worth keeping it ought to be in the main article. If kept, it ought to be renamed removing "Fictional" because Dungeons & Dragons is fiction, use of the word is redundant. Carlossuarez46 06:30, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The reason I threw "fictional" into the title was to exclude real weapons such as various swords that already had their own articles. Bryan Derksen 07:52, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. I'm a big fan of d20 games, but there is no reason to have this article which is due to lack of research. The spiked chain entry historically is called a chain whip. The dire flail is just a modified three section staff. No reason to have a list of non-fictional weapons with fictional names. Turlo Lomon 10:21, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.