Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fiction based on World War II

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Deletion consensus as not viable and indiscriminate. There was also strong consensus that an article could be created, as well as smaller articles/lists on narrower topics.

Any admin/REFUND may draftify this for those purposes without contacting me first. Nosebagbear (talk) 08:46, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Fiction based on World War II[edit]

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This is an indiscriminate list that is currently unreferenced outside of a single footnote to Amazon's page about one book. The list's scope is extremely large, reminding me of the recently deleted lists of songs (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of songs about rain (2nd nomination), Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of songs about the environment (4th nomination)), but this one includes not just songs but 'all fiction'. And the inclusion criteria are quite arbitrary (what exactly does it mean by "based"? Is it "about"? Is it "inspired"? And it already sprouts a section like "Authors who specialize in World War II"; plus a comic section which promises a start of a wonderful list of "Marvel superheroes who fight Nazi Germany". Headache incoming). Undeniably World War II in fiction or popular culture are notable topics but this list (even though it's not called such) is beyond saving. I think this needs to be WP:TNTed without prejudice for a proper, non-list article to be written about this. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 05:10, 5 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Indiscriminate list with a hopelessly vague and broad scope. Some subcategories of the corresponding Category:World War II fiction contain hundreds of articles. –LaundryPizza03 (d c̄) 05:40, 5 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Far too broad an area. Clarityfiend (talk) 10:27, 5 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom, but we do desperately need a World War II in fiction article. Gildir (talk) 13:34, 5 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Not complete and subjective, too broad an area. Kierzek (talk) 15:27, 5 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Navigational lists are more useful than categories, allowing more information to be shown. List of World War II films List of World War II films (1950–1989) List of Allied propaganda films of World War II List of World War II TV series List of World War II short films List of World War II science fiction, fantasy, and horror films Dream Focus 15:28, 5 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Dream Focus The issue is of scope. The list you cite cover much smaller topics which can conceivably be shown in a list. A complete list of all WWII fiction would crash most browsers, or we would have to split in weird ways that don't make sense (outside the system we have, of which articles you cite). The main article should be TNTed and restarted as a prose overview of the topic, not a messy list. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 11:16, 6 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. I don't see the point in such a broad thing. Intothat darkness 20:53, 5 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, where do you even start with this? WP:NOTINDISCRIMINATE. Ajf773 (talk) 09:16, 6 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to World War II in popular culture; I agree the scope is problematic here. All of these lists are better handled elsewhere with more context. User:力 (power~enwiki, π, ν) 19:06, 6 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Huh, World War II in popular culture seems like a half fork of this (the lists), and half the article we need to be written (but sadly, the prose parts are mostly unreferenced). It may warrant its own WP:TNT. As I said, there is obviously a notable topic here - but what we have are bloated lists and OR. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:06, 7 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Merge into World War II in popular culture which is part of a set: World War I in popular culture, World War III in popular culture. The references to TNT are in poor taste here as TNT is a toxic explosive which was used to kill many people during WW2. In any case, WP:TNT is an essay and so has "no official status, and do[es] not speak for the Wikipedia community". The community's actual policies are to prefer alternatives to deletion and preserve content. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:23, 7 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.