Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fawaz Jaleel

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Move to draft. There are strong arguments for deletion, but I follow the suggestion to move this to draft per WP:ATD. Randykitty (talk) 17:31, 19 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Fawaz Jaleel[edit]

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non notable author article accepted by a sock. Previously moved into draft by Praxidicae and deleted by discospinster. Still article is lacking significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject. fails WP:GNG and WP:AUTHOR. GermanKity (talk) 17:35, 26 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. GermanKity (talk) 17:35, 26 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. GermanKity (talk) 17:35, 26 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Kerala-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 17:37, 26 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Dear editor,

I created this page based on news articles and other credible sources online. The subject in the story is a verified personality on social media (Facebook) and is a person with a notable presence in India. However, I would love to improve my wikipedia editing skills and would request you to suggest improvement techniques to make the article better. I humbly request you to reconsider the deletion suggestion

Wikienthuindian (talk) 19:03, 26 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete At first, the article deceives. But on closer inspection, almost all sources carry disclaimer like brand media (mid-day), brand desk content (Zee), Featured content (DNA). There is no reception of the work. The Hindu article is a single paragraph description of the book with zero independent commentary on the book. So while it is sourcing what could be considered reliable sources, they are clearly not independent. Wikienthuindian, being verified person on Facebook or anywhere else is not an indication of notability at Wikipedia. Can you provide any sources that are truly independently written? Nomadicghumakkad (talk) 02:22, 29 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Nomadicghumakkad

I wasn't aware of the featured bit honestly. I thank you for the new learning. These are independently written I articles I could find quickly

https://www.edexlive.com/people/2021/jan/29/this-young-authors-political-potboiler-will-give-you-a-taste-of-indias-last-quarter-decade-intrig-17765.html https://www.gdnonline.com/Details/923874/Thrilling-new-chapter-of-a-novel-ambition. ( This I saw on the print version too - Bahrain's leading newspaper as this subject has some connection with the country ) https://newsable.asianetnews.com/india/between-left-and-right-in-politics-fawaz-jaleel-is-an-outsider-qqiwcx (India News section)

I will look for more if you need me to. Kindly keep giving your feedback. I am working on another article and your feedback will really help

Wikienthuindian (talk) 08:48, 29 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Hi Wikienthuindian. Edex and GDN - I honestly don't consider them a reliable source. People have argued in favour of EdEX since it's part of New Indian Express but I find it bloggish and not journalistic. The Aisa-net review - any reviews that ONLY praises the book are dubious. Yes, I will be happy to assist you on other articles. Sorry you have to go through this unpleasant experience on this one. Nomadicghumakkad (talk) 03:35, 30 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Extraordinary Writ (talk) 17:48, 2 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 23:43, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. I can find no evidence of SIGCOV (coverage consists of slightly laughter-inducing promotional writing such as: ... first novel ... However, he isn't exactly a debutant. ... has written short stories in several genres including romance, magic realism, and thriller. An alumnus of Madras Christian College in Chennai and Azim Premji University, Bangalore, Fawaz has a fascinating body of work experience ranging from public health organisations to corporates to the Government of India.); WP:AUTHOR criteria are not met. — Alalch Emis (talk) 20:18, 17 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Somewhat hesitant keep. I found [1], in Outlook, which seems quite usable. I'm unconvinced that EdEx isn't usable. The other sources aren't nearly as good, but aren't nothing. That said, this may well be a case of TOOSOON, and incubation in draftspace isn't something I'd be completely opposed to. Vanamonde (Talk) 05:50, 18 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.